Nikki Johnsrud on Awakening, Energy Work & Finding Your True Self

Episode Description

In this episode of the Supernatural Fix Podcast, hosts Alex and Jess welcome Nikki Johnsrud — school psychologist turned life coach, energy healer, and founder of COPE Consulting (Concentrating On Positive Energy). Nikki opens up about her journey from high-functioning codependency and a devastating loss, to discovering Reiki, energy work, and the power of giving yourself permission to heal. Whether you're skeptical of energy healing or deeply curious, this conversation will make you think differently about how we carry trauma, suppress our intuition, and finally find our way back to ourselves.

Show Notes

0:00 – Introducing Nikki Johnsrud

Alex and Jess introduce guest Nikki Johnsrud from Watford City, ND — a mom of two, school psychologist of 20+ years, and creator of COPE Consulting.

4:40 – Nikki's Background & COPE Consulting

How 20+ years as a school psychologist led Nikki to discover the Nurtured Heart approach — and eventually create COPE Consulting. COPE = Concentrating On Positive Energy.

10:45 – Grief, Loss & Personal Awakening

Nikki shares about losing her daughter five years ago, how grief forced her to finally sit still, and how it became the catalyst for her deepest personal transformation.

12:00 – Discovering Reiki & Energy Healing

A mutual friend introduced Nikki to Reiki during her darkest season. She shares what that first experience was like — and why it changed everything.

18:00 – Sound Healing & Intuitive Gifts

Alex shares her sound bath experience, and Nikki reflects on the intuitive gifts she's had since childhood — and why so many of us shut them down.

24:30 – Reiki in Medicine & Science

From Mayo Clinic to local doctors asking questions — how energy healing is gaining credibility alongside conventional medicine, and why that matters.

35:30 – Nikki's Current Work & How to Connect

Nikki walks through everything she offers: COPE Consulting, The Founders Table coaching, the Great Girlfriend Getaway retreats in Medora, public speaking, and her energy healing practice. Find her at COPEConsultingNJ.com.

46:00 – Final Thoughts & Closing

Reflections on finding your people, giving others grace to grow into who they're meant to be, and the power of community around healing.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hey guys. Hey guys.

SPEAKER_02 0:03

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 0:07

Just do this. Yeah. Nikki. I'm sorry. Okay. This is Alex. I'm Jess. And we are with.

SPEAKER_02 0:15

What's our podcast name? Do you even know?

SPEAKER_00 0:19

We're gonna do this. Okay. Anyways, this is Nikki Johnsrood, and she is a good friend of mine. And she lives in Watford City. And we are in Willison, and we are on new Supernatural Fix podcast. See? I got it down. Okay. We have Nikki here as a guest, and we just want to talk to her about all the things that who she is and what does she do. So yeah. Anyways, Nikki, introduce yourself.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

Hi, like you said, I'm Nikki Johnsrude. I am from Watford City. I have been here most of my life. Strange, interesting bit about me is I started out in the Oregon, California area and then moved back here. But I would say 99% of my time I've been here in North Dakota. And take or leave that, whichever you want to do. But I would say I've had quite the interesting journey as to getting here. I am a mom of two, married to my high school sweetheart. Went on, got my undergraduate degree, went on to get my graduate degree as a school psychologist, did that for over 20 years, and then about four years ago made a plot twist and said, I'm leaving that career and jumped into something else. And for a high-functioning, codependent woman, that was for somebody that likes to have control in every moment, it set me a spin in different directions and brought about different paths that I would be on. But I think for most of my life I was realizing a lot of things I was just not acknowledging or allowing myself to feel or really step into who and what I was supposed to be. And so whether that's for somebody in their 20s, 30s, 40s, or 50s, 60s, wherever that is, whether you're a man or a woman, I think that there's a lot of interesting things that can come along with that. So yeah, that's a very high overview of where I'm from, how I've got here, and I guess where time will only tell where I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:25

So I met you, I think it's been through three years or yeah, I would see actually probably three and a half, maybe four, because yes, I asked you to come and be at my first girlfriend getaway. And yeah, I hadn't even met you yet. And I just took it, took the information from a dear friend, and they're like, This girl's got a lot of cool stuff to share. And yeah, normal. Is that what you said? Well, I just yeah, I think back to when we first met, and here we are, we're gonna have this whole day of an event, and she's doing multiple things in it, and she's oh, by the way, I'm gonna go to a Reiki session beforehand. I'm like, Okay, okay. And she comes back with just this aweshock space around her, and I was like, Are you okay? And she's like, Yeah, I think I am. Just but it also opened you had so much your aura and your being is a one that when people are near you, Jess, they just they want to know more. And that was exactly what it your character and your your energy drew me in way back when. And it, I just think about where we both were then and where we are now. Stepping into, you know, maybe and I shouldn't speak for you, just meaning we were tiptoeing into some of those pieces and places of ourselves, but not necessarily maybe standing wholeness whole in our greatness or our skill sets. And so, yeah, look at the the growth that has happened since then.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

Yeah, we all have to start somewhere, yeah. So yeah, it's just you know, just all these new things, and you just start stepping into it, and then it's I don't know, you just get enveloped into it. So, yeah, you started co-consulting. How long ago was that? And how did you run into it?

SPEAKER_01 4:17

So, cope consulting, I started that uh out of a need. Being a school psychologist, I was working with kids and families and staff and other adults in situations that were struggling, and including myself. Uh, as a school psychologist, people would come to me for assistance and help with kids or that had challenging and difficult behavior, and maybe sometimes adults too. And to be honest, when earlier on in my career, I did not necessarily look in my toolbox and it would be empty. So I set about this journey of starting with the nurtured heart approach. It sounds very mambi-pamby, but I will tell you from somebody that was raised in a space where we were very much raised in the lecture type era, you didn't get much from your parents because that was just the expectation that you should be doing things and just know what to do. And then your parents showed up for you when things weren't going the greatest, right? That's when you got a lot of energy from them. And so then I took it upon myself that I wanted to go and get this training, not only for the kids that I was working with for work, but also with my own children. I knew that I needed to learn some new skill sets, or else someone was not gonna make it, and I was afraid it was me. The children weren't going to be running the roost. So, how that came about is I knew once you figure out some of these things in your life, you realize you have to share it with other people. At least that's how it is with me. Of course, if something's going on, or I know somebody that's doing a great job, I want to go and share that with somebody else. Oh my gosh, you've got to talk to Jess. She does a great job at speaking about this, she does fantastic videography. She's doing this, that I'm just saying that's who I am. And I felt it was only one piece of the puzzle working with kids at school that it was not helping those parents and families at home. So that's where I started putting on events and trainings for parents and families and the community so they could learn those skill sets. And I was trying to figure out a name for my consulting business, and my husband was the one that helped me come up with it. I'm like, I want some kind of some kind of meaning hidden in the name of it. So cook consulting actually stands for concentrating on positive energy, which now isn't it talk about how things in our past predict our future? Not always, but how the path can be set about for us before we even realize that's the path that we're on.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

I can't meet chills. That's like just knowing your the whole story. And I hope we can maybe dive into a little bit of where you have been since between now and at the beginning of Cope. But yeah, I mean that's where it started.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

Yeah, that's where it started.

unknown 7:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

Yeah. So I've only met you a couple times in passing. Yeah. So I would love to, I would love to hear more about your story, especially after once you created the name and everything that you've accomplished so far, and your your story is unique, aware, you know, there's so much of your own healing that's gone into it. And I think that's, you know, how we come to any our place in every journey. But I would love to hear more about you if you would like to, if you're open to sharing.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Absolutely, absolutely. So that's what I did. I threw my I was I'm the oldest of four. So if you know what that means, you know what that means. It means we're the ones that take charge, get the things done in a job setting, often put in that leadership role, wanting to get and do the best that we can. And so that's what I did in my previous career, and I wanted to help families and kids. And here's the thing: also, part of my story is that I just I never wanted to slow down. I don't know that I ever made a conscious decision about that, but I thought that being successful and being good was equated to being busy in our lives, being in on the boards, teaching the Sunday school, being on school board, being on city council, whatever that is for you and your community, all those different things. And so, you know, people, you know, I was the one that really should have come up with the shirt and I'm fine, I'm fine, right? Speaking to me. And even at the height when I was doing, you know, I think about the during the oil boom, we just had so many families moving in and so many kids that needed so much work or, you know, needed our assistance. And so I was just in it. And now I realize I was one of those people that thrived in the chaos. I thrived on the crisis. And so when things got a little still, that's when I started to feel uncomfortable. But I would not admit that to myself. Then I would just add something else. Not only was I a school psychologist and a special administrator, then I decided to add a side business, besides my consulting business, and become the top 10 in sales out of 5,000 people during a pandemic, right? So just all of these things, and I think a lot of people can relate to that. That are that's what I said earlier, like a high functioning, codependent. It's where we read the room, feel what everybody else needs from us, and we try to fix that and give what they need. But what it really does is sucks us dry. And I didn't realize that's what was happening in my life. I just, my mother, Jess has had the beautiful experience to meet my mom. I learned that from her, not dogging on her or any way, shape, or form. But a lot of women, we just you take charge, you get done what has to get done. But there's so many of us now. What happens is you get to that point where you're just there is no more to give. And I had started to feel restless in my career. I didn't know what that meant. And sad to say, just under five years ago, our daughter was killed in a car accident. And we were very close and it wrecked my world. We're extremely grateful that we had 20 years with her, but 20 years was not long enough. And so I went from being that nurtured heart really helped me try to find that positive in a lot of things, but I also went through the throes of grief, and I still do, of the why did it have to be her? All of the questions and the anger and things like that. And for the longest time, I didn't want anything good to come out of it. I just was like, you know, even though I was grateful that we had that time, I also wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, which I don't think I have any, but I wouldn't want any other parent to have to go through that. And amidst all of that is when a mutual friend of Jess and mine, I had started going to her for Reiki, and I didn't even know what Reiki was or you know what it meant, and all the things, and it was life-changing for me. And so I she had said, you know what? I think you're supposed to tell your story. I'm like, Me, part of my old job was I trained people, I spoke in front of people all the time, teaching them things, coaching them. That I didn't mind, but then tell speaking in front of somebody to tell your own story was a whole different ball of black. Yeah, and it was and to bear yourself a little bit like that was it was scary for me. But what I found is that when I started, like when I gave myself permission to leave my career, when I gave myself permission to share my story, all the ooey gooey parts of it, and you know, the the beautiful parts of it, it what I started to see it gave other women and men to permission to do the same, to say this isn't working for me. Maybe it worked for you know so much of my life, it worked for me, but it's not anymore. So that's really what kind of set about the me to step back and start to look at things, and that's where I really felt where it was God or the universe saying I needed to sit my happy little ASS down and be and sit in the stillness and the uncomfortableness. And I was not somebody that sat still. If I even had that moment of feeling that way, I would do something else. I don't think I ever in my life until a couple years ago sat and watched TV by itself. I was either folding laundry, writing a report, making supper, whatever. Because what I realized later on is that I was afraid to be alone with me. I was afraid to hear and feel all the things. And losing our daughter forced me to start to do that. So when I started talking about it, I realized I was not the only woman for one that had lost a child, but more so even than that, that's part of my story. But my bigger part of this, my overall story is that I realized why was I doing all of these things? I was doing them for other people, you know, and I really wasn't doing it for me. I thought that my worthiness was tied to and whether someone loved me or not, whether I was worthy of love was tied to what I could do for somebody. And that, even as a psychologist, was like, that's effed up, you know? And I was like, whoa, that's not, you know, we all have gone through trials and tribulations, and sometimes we downplay what we've been through because we know that other people have had so much more, or what we would consider to be worse. And so for me, it started for me sitting still in those those places. I I talk about often I'd be in a vehicle or be with someone, you know. I always thought I was this kind, really empathetic, very much aware of other people's feelings. When it got quiet in a conversation, I'd fill it because I didn't want them to feel uncomfortable. And then I had the realization the one day that I was not doing it for anyone else. I realized what I was doing is I was filling that space because I was uncomfortable. And that was that was life-changing in the way that I realized I was uncomfortable with me. I didn't even know who I was. I didn't know what I liked, what I didn't like, you know, who I wanted to be. And I think sometimes we think of that as like a midlife crisis. I think of more of it like a an awakening, and it can happen at any age, right? It's really that we turn inward instead of looking out and say, you have a choice. We've had choice all along, but we had this perception there was no choice. I remember specifically, actually, somebody just reached out to me recently and reminded me of what this person had said to me, I don't know, some years ago, maybe eight to ten years ago, saying, Nikki, you just need to slow down. And I was like, Who the hell do I need to call? What's the 1-800 number that I need to call and tell them to take their foot off the gas and put it on the brake? Yep. Then what happened going through this evolution of you know, figuring out who I am and I'm still in that process came about no one was coming along to save me. I had to figure out what that was that is what I needed to figure out how to go on. That doesn't mean, you know, that's not to say that there weren't moments that I still I'm not sure, right? Living in the moment was not necessarily always, I like to be very planned. Jess knows that I still have those tendencies, but I started to realize that I had been fighting against what my body was feeling. As a school psychologist and my administrative role, I was always really good at under I could read, I just thought I could read people's body language really well. And I could talk to so many parents, especially moms that only spoke Spanish or other languages, and we could have a whole language just between our gestures and our touch. And I just thought that I was just that good, right? That that I could read them. So things that were coming up, or I could feel someone else's pain in my own body. I could feel it to the nth degree. I felt like what exactly they were feeling, I could feel it. And that was even since I was a young girl. It's not everybody has it, right? Like we just have to tap into it. Yeah, yeah, and that's just it, right? That's and I I think that we somewhere along the way, we just think we have to fit into this box. So when we feel those things, and when that's the other thing, is I think a lot of us or all of us have this these alarm bells that go off, or these little like signals saying, I don't know if that's really where you should be going. But we are taught so many times by society that don't pay attention to that. Oh, you're fine. When a little child walks up to you, or their parents are like, Oh, you remember Jess, right? And they're like, you know, they're backing up. And the parents, oh my gosh, I'm so embarrassed. She knows who you are. I actually had that happen not so long ago too. And I said to the mom, it's okay. Allow her to honor what she's feeling. She doesn't know that I'm a safe person. Let her honor her what she's feeling in her body, and it's okay for her to stay a safe distance and be near you. Because especially for girls, just saying for us girls, a lot of times we're taught like, don't have that scowl on your face, put a happy face on. There's nothing for you to be scowling about, where we might be feeling that energy that's in the room or from someone else instead of recognizing that, saying, I don't know, but maybe I'm not supposed to be here. Like when we feel that anxiety or that what we call anxiety, or we feel that hesitancy to go somewhere or do something instead of honoring it. And I'm not saying you always say no to that. Sometimes it is that I'm just nervous, but other times I think we we don't sit in it and ask our ask ourselves, okay, why am I feeling this? What is this communicating to me? What am I not valid? What am what's going on in my body? And so I would say three months ago, four months ago, I had the opportunity to start to do some energy work on myself, um, my family, and those around me that let me, you know, play in those possibilities of trying to help people and myself and show them that it's not something that's bad.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

And I really think right now in our world, there's just so much energy that kind of tends to be to the negative. I think there's still a lot of wonderful, beautiful, good energy out there too. But people are they're looking for something, they're looking for something more, and we have looking for something that we can't help ourselves, like realizing maybe the people we thought we were supposed to trust and throw away our trust to ourselves, maybe it was supposed to begin with us, each of us, and go back to that. And so that's that's what I was sharing with Jess the last time we got together. I was like, oh my gosh, this is so exciting! I can't wait to tell you what I'm doing, and I'm like, I can't even put it into words because it's so exciting and I'm still learning. But I think that you know, it's been going on since the dawn of time, and but we so many times think, I don't know, should I do that?

SPEAKER_00 19:44

Should what am I doing? It takes a lot of turns to come out when you when people look at you in a certain way and you grew up a certain way, and you go to church, you go do all these things, and then we've been told all our lives that you know we shouldn't be thinking like that or we shouldn't be feeling that way. But everyone has those feelings, like it's just stepping out of that box that they put you in. You finally become you and you're who you're meant to be.

SPEAKER_02 20:12

You're supposed you're supposed to embrace your own journey of becoming because it's more about your own process of healing rather than everybody else's process of you healing. And I think that's what a lot of times we assume that everybody has it figured out, you know, when they are trying to teach us how to do our own healing, whether it's you know, some church leader, you know, even like a teacher, you know, great teacher in our life. You know, we assume that they it's supposed to work out the same way it worked out for them. And it's not always the case because it can our own journey is gonna be very different. We might we might learn energy healing while, you know, someone in our life that was a great teacher to us was very much adamant on not doing energy work because they didn't understand it. It's you know, we all have different stories and different perspectives, and so it's really great when we can tap into other things and just try things, you know. I think that's the biggest thing. And you trying energy work is amazing because not everybody gives it a chance, and especially, you know, like even with the psychology, the psychology of it, like when you are working in any type of medical degree, like medical field, people often turn away from that. And it's really cool because even and nowadays, like I see doctors all the time that refer people to me or they have questions about it and they're curious about it, and you're starting to see okay, there's more to it, and there's more science to it now, there's more information.

SPEAKER_01 21:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that I think you're you hit the nail on the head there, Alex. That sometimes after having my first few Reiki sessions, I remember thinking, how did I not know about this? What where was I living under Rock How to? I not know. And part of me was I realized, you know what? I even if I would have known about it, I don't know that I was at a space that I would have recognized that was something that I needed or wanted. So definitely, I think a lot of us can realize there's things that get present, or maybe it was presented, and we weren't in the space to acknowledge that it was even there. Yes. And so the other thing that I tell people, I've been to many different practitioners with Reiki, and everybody is a little bit different. It's no different than going to a doctor or a therapist or different people, like you said, teachers. Everybody has their own way of doing it. But what I will say is that I remind people that if you go to Mail, actually they've done some amazing research that often doctors will they'll they have Reiki and different energy type of services available to this to the patients. They and so when the patients just do, let's say they just do chemotherapy, and then the patients that do chemotherapy and energy work, whether it's Reiki or you know, different things of that nature, the response in their body is higher when those are used together versus just going with the medicine, right? Yeah, and so I think that people think that's just a lot of woe, as Miss Jess and I know that one of our friends, Christy Keller, she will often say, but this has been going on for since the dawn of time, and a lot of what people all the different types of healing, I'm like, it's find what works for you. You know, maybe one type doesn't work for you. And I also think that we have to be in that space and we have to be open. If you're like, go, you know, you're you you have all your points of entry blocked off for your energy, right? You're not really ready to or willing to receive. And I think that's with anything, right? It's just like think about when somebody new comes into your family or your friend group. You're like, I don't know. Um, I don't know if I should, should I, you know, bring them in right away, or am I one of those people that I have to see what you're like? And I'm not saying either one is bad or good, but I think that also goes with what other modalities that are out there. And I do think that most of them out there are have the same intent of other types of healing modalities, is that we want to help the person and really figuring out what works for them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

And a lot of it's different types of energy works that are from just different cultures, and so they have a different practice for it. A little side note when you mentioned the hospitals and oncology, how they bring that into the factor. When I actually studied Reiki my first time when I became a Reiki practitioner, and it like 15, 15, 20, 15 years ago. I don't even remember, but I did it in Denver, and so what my teacher was like, okay, like you can actually go to the hospital in Denver if you're if you're a cancer patient or even like hospice care, and you can get Reiki done. And so when I came back to Willison, it was so funny because I reached out to our hospital and they're like, What? What is what you want to do well? Because I was like, I wanted to get more my name out there and I wanted to practice. And so I was just like offering it. I'm like, I'm here to volunteer. And they told me no originally. And so, like a couple years later, after doing it in Williston, now that's when I started having doctors come to me and just ask questions. Like, I I remember I had one doctor stop me at some it was I think it was the vendor show, and they're just like, I have questions for you about raking. What like what is it? Explain it to me. Will my patients, you know, will they benefit from it? And so slowly over time, yeah, people are starting to open up to it a lot more, and the more presence that it has in our communities where people are seeing that it's okay, it's a safe thing to do, it's really changed the perspective in just even a small town Lilliston, small town, small, small midwest town. I can't think of words.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

Yeah. Well, and I think the other thing that comes along with that is that we put such pressures on that. Oh gosh, now I just lost my whole train of thought. So, Jess, you get to say what I interrupted you, so you get to say what you're gonna say. Maybe I'll come back to me.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

It is really cool. My father is he's been sick since I was two years old, and I'm 44. And they talk about pain management with him and trying to come off with some medication, and they're telling him to go get Reiki sessions and to go to yoga and all that stuff, and he's just very closed-minded to that, and so obviously it's not gonna work for him. So that's where it's just it's it's like the you're not ready for it, so it's just not gonna do it. But yeah, it's the same as medicine though. If you really don't think it's gonna work, then I think there is a little bit to bit of that absolutely power that our our higher selves, you know.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

So basically, energy work and other things like that are using that power of intuition, all of us have it. And I even remember Christy saying that. I was like, Yeah, sure. When I first learned, I'm like, I don't have it. I'm like, I don't have it like you have it. But that's the thing is that realizing it doesn't have to look exactly the same for everybody. I I recall, um, you know, like I said, I mean, I could talk endlessly about the amazing sessions that I've had with definitely different practitioners with Reiki and some mediumship and things like that. But one of the ones that I remember was at Jackie's Healing, and it was one of her gals, and I had signed up to get chakra balancing, and this was after, you know, we had lost our daughter. So I had a lot of grief and a lot of just I put on 40 pounds after we lost her. I think your body just tries to protect you in so many different ways, plus all those lovely hot dishes that everybody would bring by our house for, you know, and that I appreciate it, but also give me some extra fluff for quite a while. But I recall just I just really close my eyes and I really try to be present in that space and just allow my mind to go wherever it's supposed to go. And I remember the colors that I saw in that they were just so vibrant and in all different ways. And of course, there I know this is gonna sound woo-woo-wish again, but I remember feeling like I levitated off of the table, that I just was completely and utterly just held. And I got done, and Miguel's, are you okay? And I'm like, I am, and she's people that have that kind of stuff going on, like you had, that we just you know helped move around and get rid of that gunk. She's people are usually bawling. And I was like, I cried. Oh, I was like, okay, well, I cried. Uh, but I remember walking out, and I remember getting into my car, and I literally felt like I did not have a head. And I know that sounds weird, but I remember because so much of my life, what I made it was to take care of everybody else. So I always carried my stress on my shoulders in the back of my, you know, back of my shoulder blades. And I remember sitting there and thinking in my vehicle, this is not possible that I don't that I don't have a head. I know I have a head because I'm thinking about all of these things, right? But I just remember I have never in my life felt such lightness and the weight of the world had been lifted off my shoulders. And so that one was transformative for me, but I've also had others where you know that person didn't talk at all until we were done. I've had Reiki sessions where someone is talking to me throughout, but it was, and so I would have some instances where I would feel things, but I thought because I didn't know laying of hands, which is Reiki, I thought that just meant that I was right, and then I started to realize no, it doesn't have to always look like this, it can like this, and so that's where starting with the trailblazing communication whole life system was I realized that it could help with all of that trauma that we are all carrying. Each of ours looks different from you know, seven plus generations back. It gets passed on, whether people want to believe that or not. I'm like that limp that you have that you can't figure out what's wrong. There must be something in your there's some junk in your trunk that we may need to figure out, you know. It's not like I'm going around telling people, hey, you but just realizing that there are ways that we can help ourselves, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:01

Yeah, your body keeps a score, you really do. Uh and your the traumas of your grandparents and your husband that can go many generations back. Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

People were in it had to have been 20 20 gener generations back. It was like the early B BC.

SPEAKER_00 31:18

Yeah, yeah, and time frames.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

I'm like, how many generations would that be?

SPEAKER_00 31:22

There's so many people that got stabbed in the neck with a knife. Yeah, that's why you have the trouble speaking today.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Yeah, probably I had my past life stuff, and that was like all right here. Yeah, and that usually comes into play, especially with public speaking.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

But Nikki, so tell us where what are you doing today? Like this new, I know you this new business that you are that you're forming, and then how can we get a hold of you and all that?

SPEAKER_01 31:51

Yeah. Cope consulting is still alive and well, so you can look it up online. It's under copeconsulting nj for nikki johnsrew.com, and you can see all the things that I do have to offer. I do coaching, uh side business that we do it with other women, which is pretty call cool, called the Founders Table. I also then do public speaking. I've done different conferences or go to human service centers where I speak, other events that people would like me to come and speak in. I have different speeches that I can do, and that's all on my website as well. The other thing is that now, most recently, I started with my energy work, and I don't have that on my website, but of course you can contact me through my website and because I haven't updated that yet, but this is what it looks like. And then I also oh I'm sorry, I'm gonna hold off on the energy, I'm gonna talk about that. But then my other culmination is my event that is the great girlfriend getaway, and we have that either one to two times a year where the community that I'm help I'm trying to help build for us women to have some spaces to talk about things that we're going through and learn from each other. That's where I have the flagship that is every January, the last weekend of January in Midora. There's no place like Midorah in winter, for it's just so peaceful. It just wraps its arms around you. But I also have some different groups that I'm doing online that for those of us that can't make it in person. And like I said, last but not least is where I'm doing the energy work. So I will do energy work with people one-on-one. I will also do it in a if you want me to work with you and your family, those are options. So what it looks like, you don't have to be in person, I have to have your permission. I can't be going around and trying to fix everybody. That one be that'd be counterintuitive for me. But I really try to, for one, there's a lot of junk, like I said, junk in our trunk. So that's corded to our the generations that are going back, and also some of the stuff that we've done. So helping clear that out, but also to find out some answers. Hey, am I supposed to be buying this house? I really am feeling like this is not necessarily really something that I think I should do right now. So we would dig into that. We can do that type of thing, you can use it for your business. So, for example, helping people become more aligned with where they're supposed to be. So, let's talk about an example. If you were trying to onboard or you want to hire some new people and you're like, I don't know who to hire, we could be looking at to see. I can check with energy to see which people are aligned with, and you might say, I can do that on my own, but there's oftentimes things that we don't know about people. I think we've all probably had those things or times happen where you're like, I thought this is what this person was about, or what type of skill set, or I thought they had the same values of as me, I was wrong, right? And so we can use that energy of our higher self, our archangels and spirit guides to help us figure that information out. And so it's really a I can do it for people, but I also can show them how to do it for themselves, and that's even better. I'm like, you don't have to have me, but that has been really cool for me to watch people start to understand themselves better and also to realize that it doesn't always have to be this way. We can start to work on pulling that stuff off of you and getting it gone. That's not to say that we may not have to come back and work on it again at some point in time because we all know you can't just set it and forget it, right? Remember that TV commercial? You just can't have that. You have to come back and you it's like a garden, you have to cultivate it and we have to weed it and things like that. But realizing that people have so much more control over themselves than they even thought they did. Like I said earlier, I was looking for the 1-800 number to call and say, who can take this person's foot off the brake or off of the gas? And it was me all along. So I think that's the really cool thing is helping people start to find who they are and how they can help themselves find alignment. Absolutely. That's been the coolest part of this journey, and so I'm really trying to open that up because I have a day job. I have a day job, and then cope consulting is you know something I do on the days that I'm not doing the day job and other parts of my time. But I really would love to help more people find this peace and also this joy and realize that we can change things even though we think that they're unchangeable, even though it might be seven generations back, you know, like you said, uh Alex, or whatever, that there is hope. There's hope and that there's somebody right here in your backyard. I think there are so many amazing people right here, you know, in amongst your community. We often think we have to go to these, you know, big people, other places, and it's like there are amazing people with tremendous wisdom and knowledge right here, and why not support local, but also support yourself? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

There's a lot of closeted woo-woo people here. There is it's it's like it's incredible because once you start talking to them, you're like, Oh, she's gonna be like, she's one of me.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

Yeah, we're together. Should we just start skipping down the wall the walk together? Yeah, they can woo-woo.

SPEAKER_00 37:33

That's all I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 37:36

I see people like walking by my store outside and they like stop and look, and like they're like hesitant, like they're like, I'm just like, Yeah, I know, I know. You want to come in?

SPEAKER_01 37:44

Well, I think back, Alex, when I went to the one sound bath that you did in collaboration with Linda for Ataraxis, and I've been to a few, but I will say your sound bath was in the way that I it was so transformative. So just look at all of the things, just even with the three of us here in the different ways because Jess did a mirror meditation. I remember that. My mom came out, she's not gonna want me to talk about that, but she came up, you know, people were like snots coming out. It was just the so many different ways to help us find ourselves and find healing, and how the healing of sound has been around again since the beginning of time. These churches weren't always churches, they were sound healing chambers, and people don't want to admit that, you know. And it's just let's think back to, you know, when you hear the chimes in the old hospitals, there's a reason why those were there, not just so that you know the music was being played. And I think sometimes we think new is better, new can't be better, but also, you know, we can learn immense things from our history, you know. And for me, using the system that I'm using for energy work is that it's like until Albert Einstein when he was using energy in his lab. It's no different. I'm trying to like, you know, I think of like tune in Tokyo back in the day on girls just want to have fun, you know. Um that's terrible, that's a terrible analogy, but no, that one but history, because that's that's my jab. Well, and there's so many you said, Jess, and there's just so many people, and I've learned that from the people that I've surrounded myself with. That's the other thing is finding your people that you align with, finding the people that bring about the best in you. Sometimes we feel stuck or we think, you know, I gotta get in that job. I my dad was, you know, the undertaker or whatever it is, or my dad was this, or my mom was this. So I've got to stay the course. And I'm like, says who? Now I'm like, screw that. You know what? I understand everybody has to make money because that you still got to pay your bills and things like that, but realize it, figuring out how can you have purpose and tremendous passion, but also not burning your candle at both ends so that you have nothing left to give to yourself. Um so I think that's at least I know that's where I'm at, and trying to not only help the people that are, you know, in my age or a little bit older, but helping those younger people too, men and women, I think you don't have to do it all. You don't don't sell yourself that sack up, you know, that really find what does make your energy flow and what makes you happy. And again, we all know that you know, sometimes we still have to do things that make us unhappy, like still cleaning the toilets every occasion, but but finding those people that are cheering for you, you know, but also you learn from and you want to know more. So those are I'm really blessed that I've had a lot of people in my life. Once I stopped thinking I had to perform for other people, those are when the really cool people, such as yourselves, have allowed me to come into my own and figure out what that looks like for me. And that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 41:18

And I think that's important, just what you said is just giving grace to other people to become to come into their true selves. You know, it's it's and it's like what we said earlier, it's that it's no stories the same. And it's just you can come along the you know your own little path and just just giving grace to other people to get there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:42

We all have our formation, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:46

And it's I don't think because you've come such a long way since I've met you, uh since I first met you. I've come a long way as well, and it's just really cool to see it, and I'm so proud of you and how far you've come. And I know it's hard, and we all have our hard stories, but you're an incredible person. I encourage you to just stick to it.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

Yeah, that can make such a difference in people's lives, and that's you know, like that can be a very difficult life, but it's so rewarding. There's so much that comes from that where you know I'm really dry, I'm really blanky on words today. I'm like that's not right. Oh my gosh, I don't I think I do.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

It's not right, it's the right on away though.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

And here's what I'm that's what I was gonna say to you about that is that finding that finding the place where you feel good to be you is number one, but also figuring out that what was the secret sauce for someone else doesn't have to be your secret sauce, right? And I think for me, the coolest things that I will even say when I started working in an energy work is I was like, oh, I gotta forget everything else and just focus in and only do it the way these people did it, right? But I can't take away, you know, I went to so much schooling to be a psychologist, so then I get to use all of my wisdom from that in helping because yes, find some of the answers, but there's also some of that interpretation. And so I take, I'll tell people, you know, I would encourage them if they're interested in some energy work, they can reach out to me, they can do the contact button through my website. But it's that I say, take what resonates with you and leave the rest because there is some of that interpretation, and I think that happens in anything, right? You have to sometimes read between the lines, and how does it resonate for you? How someone else reads, it might be the exact same words on that paper, but because your path has led you this way, and my path led me this way, it's going to be taken very differently, and that's okay. That's the beauty of it, actually, because then it can be in black and white, but it's not in black and white because of how your glasses or your perspective has been shifted by the journey that brought you to that place. So I think that's been, I would absolutely love to see that my that's what I'm putting out there into the universe, that the energy work is going to really going to allow me to help people. I I really would love to do that to us and it's not just people that have to be in our community because you guys are here on this platform and it's going all different places. That's the beauty that I can do it wherever they're at I can still do it from here. You know and I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes because I'm hoping that someday I don't have to have a day job. I hope they don't take this wrong for the day job place. And I'm just saying like I would really love to have that where I have that flexibility and the ability to stand in that those skills and really help people when they're in need. When it's good and bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:00

It's honorable. I'm excited for it. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to come get a reiki session.

SPEAKER_01 45:05

I know right as I told her I was like I'm gonna come see you. I know yes well I just want to say thank you guys for you know having me on and I think what you guys are doing is not only commendable but it's super awesome that you are giving people a platform to come and share their stories but also to connect all of us woo-wooish people out there. And that's the beauty is about this internet thing right being able to get wisdom and knowledge from all points and that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 45:43

Thank you for joining us like thank you for offering your time and we're gonna have you come back because we're gonna have to have some Reiki conversations too.

SPEAKER_00 45:50

Oh yeah all right we need that one story yeah I'm ready all right thank you Nikki um I guess we'll yeah we'll talk with you soon and thanks everyone for tuning in by