Astrocartography & World Events with Dr. Steve

Astrocartography & World Events with Dr. Steve

Astrocartography expert Dr. Steve (Deep Dive with Dr. Steve) joins Alex and Jess to break down how mapping your birth chart onto the globe reveals fated locations for love, career, and danger. The conversation moves from personal relocation astrology into geodetic world-mapping — using planetary lines to explain real headlines: the Iran-Israel conflict and Strait of Hormuz shutdown, unrest in the Philippines and Rome, and the ongoing Mars-Uranus conjunction threatening Southern California over July 4th weekend. Dr. Steve also previews his eclipse-based forecasts for Japan, upcoming U.S. elections, and a long-range prediction for America's transformation through the 2030s.

Show Notes / Timestamps

0:00 — Intro and welcome, guest introduction (Dr. Steve, Deep Dive with Dr. Steve)

1:43 — What is astrocartography/astromapping, and its history with Jim Lewis

3:37 — Using planetary lines for relocation (love, career, clients)

5:36 — Geodetic mapping explained: Earth's own "natal chart"

6:45 — Reading presidential charts: Trump's Mars line over D.C.

10:01 — Mars-Uranus conjunction July 3-4 and Southern California concerns

16:27 — Earthquakes, explosiveness, and the 1906 San Francisco parallel

23:05 — Pakistan-Afghanistan conflict and the Mars-Uranus connection

24:12 — Vatican power struggle: Pluto line through Rome and Switzerland

32:14 — Iran-Israel war and the Strait of Hormuz shutdown explained

42:35 — Asia outlook: Pluto's influence on Korea, Japan, and China

54:01 — Philippines volcano, Pluto lines, and personal transformation

1:03:34 — August eclipse forecast: Japan, Greenland, and global shakeups

1:09:34 — 2026 midterms and Southern California mayoral race predictions

1:11:03 — 2028 presidential election prediction (Venus/Jupiter analysis)

1:22:05 — Long-term outlook: Uranus in Gemini, agricultural crisis, and America's Aquarian shift through 2030s

1:27:05 — Personal astrocartography stories and closing thoughts

1:30:42 — Where to find Dr. Steve, closing remarks

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:41

Hey guys. Hi. How's it going? Welcome to another podcast for the supernatural effects. Alex, I always I don't know why I always forget what the name is. It always draws a blank for me. What does that mean?

SPEAKER_05 1:02

I mean, well, right now we're in Mercury retrograde, so it kind of makes all right.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

Well, today we have uh Dr. Steve is from um deep dive of Dr. Steve, and he is down in Orlando, Florida. Actually, where are you from?

SPEAKER_01 1:21

Where is um well, where I'm from originally?

SPEAKER_02 1:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

I'm originally from New York.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

I'm originally from New York.

SPEAKER_02 1:28

So you currently live in, is it Winter Garden?

SPEAKER_01 1:31

I live in Winter Garden and um been in Florida for 22, 23 years.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

So yeah, if you if you have been around before, then you've known Dr. Steve has been with us previously talking about um astrology and uh he does Vedic astrology, and then we're he is like you know, uh talking about astro cartography now, right?

SPEAKER_05 2:03

Yeah, which is kind of perfect with the theme. You you just asked him where he's from and everything that we've been coming off. I'm like, wait, are you are you trying to are you trying to like lean into this? A little bit, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

Her Mercury is kick is kicking in, that's great. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:19

All right, so yeah, tell us what's going on, Steve.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Oh, well, you know, it's interesting. Astro, so the technical term astrocortography, um, I use the word generic word astro mapping. There's a couple different techniques within that umbrella term, if you will. Astro cartography is one of them that was developed by a gentleman named uh Jim Lewis. Um, he unfortunately passed away relatively young at 53 years old. And um, but he really developed this um in the 70s and really popular, it exploded in the 80s and 90s. And even today, it's kind of like you know, it was his own particular technique, even though astrolocation, astro mapping have been around, but he really um you know connected it with the computer age and uh printed maps and all that, and he put it on, he literally put it on the map, uh pun intended. And so that's kind of like a bread and butter technique now in in um in in astrology. And this is more on the western side for sure, uh, but it is definitely the science of relocation. It tells you basically what it does, it takes your birth map and lays it over the earth, and it basically tells you where you have you know the lines connected to, say, the sun, which is where you could find fame and where you can find um recognition, career success, things like this. So, so the same meaning of the planets are just overlaid over where you can experience those types of events, okay? And so that's astro map, that's astro mapping, astro cartography, you know, in very simple terms. And so people use it for relocation, you know. Do you want to find uh bring more love into your life? Do you want to, you know, where should you go career-wise? Where should you um look for clients, right? Um, that's one of the things that I'm working on right now. So astro mapping really just takes astrologies just to the next level, and it's really fascinating. So, because really, if there's any one thing that we can, you know, astrology can very much feel faded, right? And and and I do Vedic astrology and it very much feels that way, but this is where you can actually take your destiny into your own hands. Your chart still has its impact, but you can put more um things in your favor if you um, for instance, move closer to your Venus line, if your Venus is well supported in your chart and so on and so forth, you will get the benefits of relationship energy. You can improve that, and it's really pretty pretty significant. I'll give you an example. I had done a reading um for a friend of mine uh maybe three weeks ago now, and she had a very prominent Neptune connected to her career line right over Clearwater, Florida. And so Neptune is a planet of inspiration. It's also can be illusory, it also can be deception, it can be, you know, so it kind of has both qualities, a very mystical quality to it. That's very much Neptunian. Um, and so she got a job, um, and she thought it was one thing, and Neptune showed up, it turned out to be a whole other thing, right? And these people try to get her to kind of be less than um, let's just say it didn't work out, right? They it was very Neptunian, right? They literally came in one way, and then all of a sudden it was this other situation that presented itself. And so along Neptune lines, right, you can experience those things. But Neptune lines are perfect as a career for, like, say a psychic work or what we do here, metaphysics, anything that's kind of mystical, it's perfect for that. But if you're trying to do concrete things in a world, then that starts have you fudging numbers, right? That has you making up stuff, right? So, um, and that's exactly what the experience you had on that line. So it was very fascinating to kind of hear these stories um as I've kind of delved into it. So that's astro mapping and and and how we do it. The other part with astral mapping is there's a branch called uh geodetic, and geodetic just means of the earth, and that's actually the the screen here. I see you guys can see it. And it think of the earth itself as um the natal chart. The earth itself has a natal chart. So you have a place where Aries begins, Taurus begins, you know, so and you divide that into 30 degree sections. And this type of astro mapping, um, geodetics is used specifically for mundane, where are things going to happen between earthquakes and uh, you know, it's typically unfortunately, you know, people you know, we see the negative things that occur because those are very evident, but even the good things that happen as well. So um, I'll give you an example. Every president that gets elected, what you can look to see is what lines do they have, and they always have some very significant lines in Washington, DC, or else they wouldn't be elected, right? The flavor of those lines indicates the presidency and what will be the nature of the presidency. Um, let me give you a guess as to what our current occupant has going over DC. Take a guess as to what planet it may be there.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

Uh yeah, maybe Jupiter.

SPEAKER_01 7:46

Oh, definitely not Jupiter. Jupiter Square, maybe, but not Jupiter. Go ahead. What did you say it, Alex? Mars. Mars, exactly. He has Mars over DC. What's that?

SPEAKER_02 8:00

Is that because he is, yeah, because he was born in in uh June and he had a Mars uh right?

SPEAKER_01 8:07

Is that yeah, he had Mars in his first house, and a and when you overlay it into his chart, um, he has this Mars line that goes directly through DC. And so the and that's why he's fighting even with the Capitol, right? And and and he and again coming off with those same brashness, boldness, um, obviously the war theme that we're dealing with. And so you have that. Interesting, you brought up Jupiter. The the president that had Jupiter that was very prominent was Eisenhower, I believe. I believe, no, Truman Eisenhower. He had Jupiter in there, and that was considered the the golden 50s, right? The golden age, if you will, where you know, building of the of the middle class, there was you know, generally, right? It was um a general time of that. So you can see who has what over there, and they tell you the flavor. And so we have someone who's got, you know, Mars there, and so he's doing Mars things, um, very evidently, right? So so this is geodetic mapping, and it's really a fascinating um way that we can learn to make, learn to see where events are in the world. And what I mean it's very clear, I'm gonna show you know, we're gonna go through some examples today, and it's just clear as day. Just clear as day. So that's why I really like this one.

SPEAKER_02 9:25

So have you popped any uh possible future presidents?

SPEAKER_01 9:29

Uh you know, well, we might do one today. I had I was thinking about today. I was like, ooh, I need to pop in, you know, future president who's all thinking of the same one, um, to see kind of what that would be like. Because you know, is it me? Yes, of course. Sorry, sorry, yeah, absolutely. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:48

Did you have fame over there?

SPEAKER_01 9:50

That was that was that was fame there. You do have fame. Um, so yeah, so so so I I've I've looked at some. I need to pop his chart into uh to kind of see, but yes, you you can do that. You can actually see who has good enough lines, right? So I would say it's just another tool that you can use to see who has a stronger chart for that location, right? Because if you're if the people, you know, like for instance, when they came to Kamala and Trump and so on and so forth, um there were so many different ways you can look at it, right? I mean, but then that's another one you can see to see, okay, which who has the better lines, right? Or who has more lines or you know, more indicative that they would get it, if you will. It's not the only thing, but it's definitely, you know, I will definitely be using it now as a determining factor when my you know when I do my predictions. Right. So um, but yeah, so so that's um the geodetic. So um the thing that's coming this week, I think we should all talk about is we are having on July 4th, we are having a Mars and Uranus conjunction, literally on July 3rd, July 4th.

SPEAKER_02 11:00

And today's July 1st, by the way, that we're recording this.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

So very important to know, very important to know. And that is significant for a couple reasons. One of them is the fact that um the United States was born under a Mars Uranus uh conjunction, okay. And so so so that so that is kind of gonna be like a recurrent transit, if you will, um already. And every time you've we've had one, it I mean, it literally represents explosions, right? So, on one sense, it is it just means that we're gonna have one hell of a fireworks, right? Um, I think I might have sent you, did you see my uh text I sent to you guys about the fireworks?

SPEAKER_02 11:45

Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

So normally they do about 20,000 fireworks on any given um 4th of July. This year, you won't even guess how many that they're gonna have, Alex. Just guess. You've been good at this so far. How many? They they're going from 20,000 and they're uping, they're upping it.

SPEAKER_05 12:02

850.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

There you go. 850,000.

SPEAKER_05 12:06

I just I just remember, I remember the text.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

Remember that one. There you go. See, I was like, you know, I wouldn't shoot. I would have been like, see, I remember off the top of my head, you shouldn't have but yeah, they're going from 2020 K to 850,000, almost a million individual fireworks. So that itself is a Uranus Mars signification, right? So um that is really quite interesting, right?

SPEAKER_02 12:32

It's pretty quite a price tag right there.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

Price, absolutely, yeah, yeah. Well, no um what do they say when you know no expenses, right? You know, they're just going all out for it, right? So they definitely are doing that. Um, so that's really fascinating. Now, of course, I was concerned because you know, Mars Uranus, right? That itself is never a fun light time. That is serious, right? That is quite serious, and so I was like, okay, well, let's see where on the earth um we're having that uh conjunction, if you will, or first of all, where on the earth, but also is it happening in the United States, right? And so I'll um show this to you guys here, and so we can kind of see when that will be. And if you'll pay attention here, I'll show you July. Let's move that back a bit. Bam, July 4th. Okay, so I'm gonna remove those lines so you just so you can see them easier. Um, I'm just gonna do the Uranus and the Mars together. Everyone else, we can do it. Okay, so are you seeing where that conjunction is happening? Can you see? Can you hear it? Yeah, Southern California, ladies and gentlemen. Southern California, and really the West Coast. And by the West Coast, it means Southern California, up through Nevada, up through Boise, um, um, you know, excuse me, Boise, um through Idaho, up through Canada, but basically it runs through there, and so the closer you are to that line, the closer you can expect, you know, literal, you know, events connected to that. And that's how you read you would read that. And so I'm to be honest with you, I am concerned if you were gonna ask me kind of what you know, in very real sense.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

Don't go to Vegas, right? Say again, don't go to Vegas.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

Yeah, I would be staying away from Vegas. Now, the other thing is, you know, astrology is kind of just common sense, and one of the common sense things I thought about, like, oh, wait up, what's going on in Southern California right now? Is there large groups of people at one place? Oh, we have the World Cup in LA, yeah, right? So I, you know, it's one of those things where you know astrology is real. So I'm hoping that's not it's not any particular thing, but that is a concern. That is absolutely a concern. Um, leading up to all of this, um, just urine, uh excuse Uranus by itself um was causing these. Um, I have a friend that lives out there, and they were having these uh warnings and stay home shelter in place because there was this toxic gas that was being emitted from this um industrial plant. And they've had warnings over there over the last three or four weeks. And so that was a precursor to all of this, right? Because Uranus was going through. Okay. So now they have Uranus and Mars, right? It's it's it's really it's really kind of concerning. Um, if you can can you see here, it's like really close to uh San Diego, right? Right, and obviously, you know, these lines people say 300 miles on either side, right? But the closer you are to it. So I'm really concerned about San Diego. Um, and if you go up further up, um, you know, let's see here, right? Definitely Las Vegas for sure, right? It's it's it's it's it's getting up there. So these are definitely areas of concern, to be quite honest with you. Quite honest with you. Um, so let's let's hope for the best.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Let's hope, you know, but you know, and that's on July 3rd.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

July 3rd and 4th, because it's really kind of like right on there. It's exact, it's actually exact July 3rd, but it's kind of as it moves into the fourth. Um, and these, of course, you can give a um an you know, three or four days on either side of it, to be quite honest with you, right? Um, so when you've been hearing a lot about the astrologers' talk online and you know, just the buzz, this is definitely what everyone's talking about, right? Everyone's like, okay, wow, this is it's almost you know how a lot of astrologers just try to like make everything nice, and this one you can't, right? So everyone has been like, yeah, this is a problem, right?

SPEAKER_05 16:57

So when you look at the explosiveness, would that also include like you know, perhaps like earthquakes or any of that sort of thing?

SPEAKER_01 17:04

Just thank you for bringing that up. Yes, absolutely. So, what specifically this is is what the astro mapping does is that you take the angular positions, and angles are uh houses the first house, seventh house, tenth house, and fourth house. So the first house is a personal connection, the AC, the ascendant. The seventh house connects to other people, right? So it will manifest to other people. The 10th MC is the 10th house, so a career government type situation. Well, this one is connected to the IC or the fourth house, and that is the foundation, that is land, and so that literally can represent a shaking of the land, a sudden unexpected, because Mars is excuse me, um, Uranus is sudden unexpected, right? And connected to the land. And Mars is also on the IC position connected to the land. So this could be fires, this could be brush fires, this could be earth, like all of those, you know, what is it called that the ring of fire? Yeah, it goes all through the Pacific, but also, you know, California is on the other side of that ring of fire, if you will. So absolutely. Um, I had a friend of mine ask, and I will tell you, uh, since we're kind of, you know, we'll I'll be hopefully be back again, but um, she was considering going to Yellowstone or asking me about Yellowstone. And I thought maybe she might be going there. So I said, I looked at there, I was like, uh, okay, it's that's where Uranus is going, right? But it's not getting there, and it's not gonna be exact, and Mars is not gonna make an exact conjunction there with it or aspect until um the summer of 2027. So this time next year, that that is scary. I'm not, you know, so so you know, it's stuff like that that one like, and I I've already mapped it out. I looked at that, I was like, um, okay, that's that's a day that we should all be, you know, people need to be aware of. And this can be the benefit, of course, of um of that, you know, um of the relocation.

SPEAKER_02 19:05

So, you know, I'm you know, I'm not trying to be if that pops off, I'd like to just be there and get it done and over with. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 19:12

Wait, wait, if what pops up, say it again, and again, an earthquake over there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean it. So I I will tell you that I correlated this along with let me backtrack a little bit. So the United States right now, in terms of the history that it's repeating, is we're reliving the same time period based on Vedic astrology that was the same time period as the 1906 um earthquake in San Francisco. Okay. Um, that one, of course, you know, all the wood was there, fires, so on and so forth. So we're we're in that time window now. Um, and it goes until 2027, 28, right there. But we're kind of the the tightest type uh time window was right now. So when I saw this, and then I'll show you another thing that's happening here. Um, you can take a look here. I'm gonna throw Pluto, the Pluto line on here.

SPEAKER_05 20:11

Which while you're doing that, can I add that if you are listening to this, we will have the video up so people can actually look and see your notes. So no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

It is, it's one of those. Now, you see where the Pluto line is at? You see this in Northern California here. That eventually that's Pluto on the ascendant for California. And so for these cities, it's going to be very much connected to the places personally, right? And so that Pluto line, if we've kind of fast forwarded a little bit to see how fast it moves, you're gonna see it move. And remember, Pluto goes back and forth, right? Retrogrades, and then it the closer it comes to here, right? 2027, so it's gonna get a little closer, it's gonna move back out, right? Retrogrades out. I'm gonna speed it up even fur faster. It's not gonna be moving through until about 2028. You see that now that's but you see how he's going back and forth. So this is 2028 into 2029. That's really where I'm concerned with. See, there it is again, 2028, 2029, and you see how it's making that back and forth motion over Northern California. This, to be quite honest with you, is a concern, right? This is this is a concern. Um, so astrologically, in terms of the astral mapping, you can tell where are the trouble spots on the earth, and that's definitely one now. Again, we're seeing that's further out further on out. But when I got when I learned this this last three, four months, I was like, I just went going through looking at everything, good and bad, right? And I was like, wow, this is if there's any part of astrology that you can really give people a heads up about, it's definitely this one, right? Um, yeah, don't live over there, or yeah, be be careful then, or you know, now here's the interesting thing, keep in mind though your personal chart takes precedence. So if if you're getting good transit during that time, that means that regardless of what's going on externally, you'll um be able to navigate through that, right? Um, it doesn't prevent the event from happening, but it means your experience of that event will be different, right? Now, I know we're looking on the more negative side, we'll get to the positive ones for sure, but but it's it's really fascinating when you see it like that. Um now, this is the other thing that's um going on right now, globally, because it's always fun to look at the globe to see what's Happening. Um and me be the say again.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

I said it looks like we lost Alex.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

Oh, we just did. Okay, I didn't I just saw that.

SPEAKER_02 22:49

I just saw that I get maybe yep. I guess we had to continue on. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 22:55

Yeah, we can continue on. Yeah, for sure. So um he's popping back in there. Awesome.

SPEAKER_05 23:01

Was it still recording? Sorry. Obviously, is it looks like we are, are we recording? It shows now we are. What did it did it continue recording or did it tell you guys?

SPEAKER_01 23:15

Um I don't know if we uh I don't know, but um we can we'll we'll just continue.

SPEAKER_04 23:20

That's yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

Continue. So here's the interesting thing. So the next thing I asked, I said, okay, where else on the earth are we getting that Mars Uranus conjunction? Because it's happening at four different places around the earth, right? Because remember, it's the four cardinal points the AC, the DC descendant, fourth house, IC, and the MC. So there's always four places where these planets are doing their thing. Well, interestingly enough, I saw that there was one going between Afghanistan and Pakistan. And sure enough, I don't know if you know in the news, they've Pakistan just attacked Afghanistan and hit all of these so-called terrorist targets in Afghanistan over the weekend, literally the last three days. Right. And so I think there was like 36 people that got killed. They, you know, basically that border war between them is because Pakistan is saying Afghanistan is not taking care, is allowing rebels to come through, terrorists to come through from Afghanistan. So again, this is how it shows you how things are um connecting to the world events. And so where you see this happen, right, is where you can expect difficulties, right? And sure enough, we have one right right over there, okay, right over there. And that's like as of today, okay. And that will probably just amp up, okay, in terms of um world events, world events. So um the other one I want to show you guys, um, this one is you know, it's difficult, but it but it's definitely definitely not horrendous. So if you see that in Rome, in Italy, it um in Europe, there is this big line that goes over um Italy. And it goes right through Rome. This is a Pluto line. Pluto is the planet of power dynamics, deception, um, uh coerciveness, right? Power plays, right? Secrets, right? Um, and basically, you know, just manipulation and thing, and you know, really kind of the negative events. It's going right through Rome. And I'm like, okay, that must be something, but I hadn't heard anything over the last couple of weeks. So today, in preparation for this, I'm like looking online, I just type in Rome and the Pope, because you know, that's where he's at. And sure enough, there's a controversy with the Pope that um he's objecting to this separatist group of the Catholic Church, it kind of allied, that they are doing their own thing, if you will, and ordaining without the Pope's approval, which in the Catholic Church needs to happen, these four bishops, and there's this power play. And you you can see it, but I want to tell the audience that same line that's going through Rome goes all the way up through Switzerland, and guess what? That's actually where the controversial um uh uh controversial um bishops are being ordained by this separatist group. Wow, that's wild. And so now there's this power dynamic going on between the church fathers, if you will, and here's why the people in Switzerland are saying that the Pope is too liberal, and they're they want to uh stick to the older ways of doing the masses, Latin mass, and and kind of their uh the theology of what they think is the more pure Christianity, pure uh Catholicism, if you will. And so that is very Plutonic. And so what's gonna end up happening is that he's they're gonna be forcing the Pope's hand where he might very possibly have to excommunicate them, kick them out the church. Okay, and so you've seen this schism develop between Rome and Switzerland, and that's exactly where the line runs through. Yeah, kind of crazy, right?

SPEAKER_05 27:14

Can you look and see like the outcome of that?

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Yes, I would I would have to look at the chart in the of the individuals in charge, or maybe right, um, of the group. I uh for this one, I was like, okay, where's that group located? Now I will tell you, this is really quite interesting that you brought bring that up. The group is right over here. I'm gonna drill in Switzerland. You see what it is this is a Jupiter line right here, and this is where the that group is located. They are under the influence of a Jupiter ascendant line, and so they are being supported by that line to say we are upholding the correct philosophy, the correct religion from their point of view, and they're being supported by it. So when I read the article, they said that there were people were um they still went ahead with the um investment, whatever they call that. You understand? They still made those people bishops, and there was parties, there was all a celebration, right? They did they basically like, yeah, we're not we're ignoring the Pope. And the reason why it went as well for them is because they're under a Jupiter line, right? It's the Pope that's feeling the Pluto on the descendant. He's getting that Pluto is coming from other people for him, but for these people, they're feeling like, hey, we're good. I don't know about you, I don't know what the Pope is doing. So you kind of see that even the intricacies of that dynamic between the two. Um, and so it does look like they'll be able to legitimately go with it. Now, even if they're excommunicated, it it's not going to affect them in terms of their purpose, if that makes sense. Right? It's the Pope that's gonna have the blowback from all of that, if you will. The group themselves are not, right? And I think the larger Catholic community is going to have to grapple with it. And I think you will start seeing some splintering, right? Because remember, Pluto is birth and re um death and rebirth, right? And so that obviously means what the Catholic Church is going through as a you know institution. Um so yeah, so it's really fascinating. Europe, by the way, is under a um a Saturn line. Um, it's going through that's why there's you know the heat wave going on in in in in um, you know, you probably didn't hear about that. Yeah, and the reason why is because this part of the earth is under um has an Aries mid-heaven, right? And let me pull that back so you can kind of see what I'm talking about, right? So you see Aries begins right outside of London, it goes 30 degrees and it encompasses basically all of Europe, right? Yeah, and then you have Saturn running right through there, and right now it's here, but it was back over in over for France and going to Germany. Germany is is in a bad economic condition, really bad Europe in general, right? And that's because Saturn does not like Aries. It's um, I tell people you get mean Saturn, you get Saturn that puts up obstacles and is, yeah, you're not doing that, you're not going any further. That kind of energy. And so there's an economic malaise um that's going through jerk um that's going through um pretty much all of Europe. Italy is getting particularly hit hard because it's getting the Uranus, I mean it's getting the Saturn, and it's getting that Pluto hit as well. So um these lines here, Berlin, you see, is not that far away from it, right? Um, Poland is you know, and it by the way, this this planet will be moving further out east. So when it leaves, it's gonna go over Moscow, but that doesn't leave until 2028. So you can even predict where the areas of difficulties will be going further, going forward, right? So fascinating stuff, guys. Fascinating. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:59

Um, any other parts of the world you want me to look at, or just you know, like yeah, and so when like just for my purposes of everybody not understanding atricography, like these lines they go around the world, right? Like yes, so it's just a straight line. So what affects over in Europe goes happens on the other opposite side, correct?

SPEAKER_01 31:25

Yeah, so um, so the up and the um the vertical lines are the MC and IC lines because they're literally um the MC is when the planet is directly overhead, so that that that makes a straight line overhead, like the sun at noon is directly overhead. That's the MC, that's the highest point. The IC is below the earth, so you so you know, imagine you can see through the earth, and that line goes all the way at the bottom. The planet is at the very bottom of the chart, and then you have the curved lines that are the ascendant because the ascendant rises and then it falls. So you're gonna have a rising sign and a and a descendant sign. So the fourth first house rising, seventh house setting, and then you have the up MC, down, IC. So that's why you see it almost looks like a spaghetti on the on that on the on the chart. And this is currently mapping where the planets are in the sky right now, and then we just position them on the earth. Like, remember, the earth is the chart, right? So this is like looking at the birth chart of planet Earth, right? Right, and it and then, of course, you have plants that are crossing and making aspects and so on and so forth, right? Um, we can go back and we can look to see the um attack um when is US and Israel attacked Iran, and um we can go back to that date and we can see what what happened then, right? So let's take a look.

unknown 32:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

Now we're gonna go over to But the last time we chatted, it was right before that, right?

SPEAKER_01 33:03

Yeah, was it really?

SPEAKER_05 33:05

Yeah, because we had been talking about February as being like a big date to pay attention to.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

Uh oh, that's right. That's right. Yes, yes. In fact, you know, isn't it funny? Like, we all get all amped up about these dates, and then when they pass, like, oh yeah, that happened.

SPEAKER_05 33:21

I know it's still important. We don't really pay attention to it because even when it happened, even when Iran happened, it was like we probably didn't even think, oh yeah, this is what it is. Because this is that big event that has altered you know our whole way of life, basically. For I mean, for now.

SPEAKER_01 33:39

And I mean, obviously it's gonna have more implications in the future, but no, no, you you're you're a thousand percent correct, Alex, a thousand percent correct. Um, that's exactly kind of what um you know we're seeing with this. So backtracking um the February um 17th, February 20th is when we had um uh Saturn and Neptune conjunct at zero degrees Aries. Like that is a world point. That was on the 20th. That was a world point event, right? Because zero degrees Aries is a world point. The world point is the specific degree that has a global impact. Things events that occur at those degrees, people see them everywhere. And literally eight days later, we started this war. Okay, US started this war against Iran with Israel, and what happened? Global gas prices shot up, gas shortage can't get through the straight of our moves, right? And so that's the kind of predictive um effect of something like that, right? So there, so you know, I'm sure, like, you know, we talked before, like, okay, what could that be? What could that be? And there it is, that's where that was, right? And we knew it was gonna be a negative event because Saturn is debilitated in Aries. And so we knew it was going to be like this very harsh, very restrictive, and that's the theme that we're living under, right? Um, and especially obviously for um the people in Iran who got attacked, uh the hundred girls that were killed, the other people that were killed, the infrastructure, then Iran, you know, retaliating, Iran. What did they do? They literally closed off the Straight of our moves, right? Now, they'll tell you that they closed it off just to their enemies, which is legit, right? I mean, you're you got attacked. So Iran being the smaller country comp compared to the United States in terms of military power, what did they have? They had the ability to be Saturn. And Saturn was like, turn off that spigot, right? And who's gonna take the economic hurt, right? We know it's gonna be the United States, right? And sure enough, even through all the bluster um of the US government and and the officials trying to spin it one way, they were desperate, desperate. Because there was nothing they could do. Because if if they could have just kept attacking Iran to make them open the strait and allowing things to go through, they would have done it. They would have continued to attack, right? But it caused so much trouble for all the other people in that area, right? They destroyed so many bases in Qatar, in um Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Israel obviously got uh got attacked as well, right? So let's take a look at this uh thing here. So basically, to go back to that, Saturn represents oil, so does Neptune. Saturn is debilitated in Aries, Aries is a sign rule by Mars, which is war. So you had all these significations pop up, boom, just like that, right? And so there's really no other way that you could say that. There was no kind of anything, it was a war signature, right? Um, and you know, it was easy to see kind of it was gonna be something negative. Uh, I don't think I was necessarily predicting war myself, but I was definitely seeing like it's gonna be global impact and it's not gonna be nice, right? Um, so on the day of this attack, right, February 28th is when the attack happened. And interesting enough, where do we see some of these uh signatures? We see your um Uranus on the MC, right? And it is blocking right through the Strait of Harmuz. Okay, isn't that crazy? Yeah, then you're gonna start seeing Mars come over here as well, right? So if we can kind of move it closer, boom, right? This is March 5th, and remember they were fighting for a good 40 days, right? So this Mars that just went over Iran, that would have been um the the attacks on on Iran the whole time over there, right? So this they basically had a str as a result had a stranglehold. The larger power, more stronger military was obviously the US and Israel. Iran was Saturn in this in in this indication, right? They literally had the oil and they literally put a stranglehold on the oil, right? And the United States made a hard limit, Saturn, right? They ran right up to it and they're like, oh, we can't do this anymore, right? Now they blustered Mars, but they could not overcome that. Because I'm see, this is the thing with when you understand these significations. Saturn says, Yeah, good luck with that. I'm not moving. You're gonna bomb, I'm not moving. You're gonna destroy us, I'm not moving. Understand? And that's what happened. By the way, all of this occurred, as you can see here. This is the this part of the of the earth is under the influence of fixed Taurus. So all the people in this region are defined by this Taurus mid-heaven energy, right? And what is that? That is a fixed sign, right? So that so the Iranians were like, yeah, we're not moving, nope, nothing happening, right? The Israelis were like, we're still gonna keep fighting, we're still gonna go into Beirut, Lebanon, we're gonna, right? So you see, everyone is in this intransient position, okay, of what of what was happening in this region of the earth, and that's what the geodetic map helps us to see. It even gives you the flavor of what this country, uh, of what of what this will be. By the way, going back when we fought this war before in this part of the world, the Iraq war, you see where Baghdad is right here in the middle? That's at 15 degrees of Taurus. 15 degrees is a world point. That's why we didn't fight one um Iraq war, we did two that had global impacts, if you will, right? So that's why this part of the world has been, you know, in the news literally for the last 30 plus years. Okay. Um, obviously the oil is a part of it, but in terms of the astrology, it is because of that world point. So the world points, just to let everyone know, for the cardinal signs, which are Aries, Cancer, Libra, and Capricorn, there are two. There's zero degrees of those signs and 22 degrees of those signs. For the fixed signs, that's 15 degrees. Okay, they only get one. So that's your Taurus, Leo, um, Scorpio, and um Aquarius, and then your mute uh mutable signs, right? Your Virgo, um, Gemini, Sag, and Pisces, the world point there is seven and a half degrees. Okay, and so anytime you have those, you know, those degrees getting hit, especially on a global level, you can expect a world event or something that's very it's highly visible. Okay. So that's what was fascinating uh about this. So this is what closed down the Strait of Harmoons, and you'll see that this um Uranus area is still here, right? It's it's it's it's moving, it's moving further away, right? Uh, I'll I'll kind of you say, but you see how slowly it moved? That's April, right? We're still in April. We're now in May, right? Now we're in June, right? And you still still pretty close, right? So now that we're you know, it's a little further over here, but this will be making a retrograde going back over here again, right? This is not over by stretch of navigation. This is not over by any stretch of match. Um, I looked at the map for um the chart of Iran, and you can use this same map just geodetically. And I'm concerned for them in um the fall. Um Chris uh excuse me, Christmas, well, Christmas time, but before Christmas time, um October time for them as well, right? Um, this is not this is not over um by any stretch imagination. So um, you know, this is gonna be part of our reality um for for a bit here. So yeah, questions or I know it's quite a bit.

SPEAKER_05 42:29

It's very interesting, and and it's it's interesting hearing from you know, like even your perspective and astro cartography, and then hearing, you know, even I don't know, I listen to a lot of podcasts where experts are weighing in on what they think is gonna happen, and it's all very similar in in sense. So is there uh I'm I'm curious if you have anything, and I'm switching areas, but with the whole time in China, Eric, like in Asia, because there's a lot going on there too, and is that connected with Iran on some level on those lines too? Because there's just so much going on.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

There's so much, and it is. It's this allows you to see things globally, right? And so we very much uh like seeing that. So with Asia itself, um, you know, you're looking for the planets that cause a lot of the upheavals, right? And one of them, of course, is Pluto. Anywhere Pluto goes, you can expect some stuff happening. I follow a lot of economic news, right? World economic news, and there's been a lot of stuff going on in Korea. Their stock market is is is is taking a bite. Um, you know, there's all kinds of turmoil there. Japan, the Japanese yen, there's a huge um problem going on with it then, right? Um, and China, though, um, you can see that China is being influenced by this Jupiter there. So they're weathering the storm better, if you will, right? Um so so they're not as of there's once that you see this Saturn line coming through, that they're gonna have a little bit of difficulty. But for now, it's really this Pluto line. Um, Indonesia um was in the news economically as well. Um, unfortunately, the Philippines had that earthquake that occurred there. Um I just mentioned about Korea, okay. Uh South Korea in particular. In fact, one of as a tangential side, a little lighter note um South Korea got kicked out of the uh World Cup, and this was crazy. The president of South Korea. Personally attacked the head coach, like on national TV or something, like put it out publicly. And so that guy, I think, was already resigning, right? And so I'm like, man, that's kind of vicious, right? Because that's normally, you know, you like good try, stuff like that. That's because Pluto was there. So he so all this scorn was heaped upon him, right? Because everyone is being influenced by this Plutonic energy. Okay. And so you kind of get that venom that comes out, right? That harshness. And so unfortunately, in Asia, that that Pluto is gonna be there for um for a bit um as well. Like how long?

SPEAKER_05 45:20

Because I'm looking at it, I'm like, I'm going to be in the Philippines in like three weeks for about two and a half weeks. And I'm looking at this, I'm like, oh no.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

No, right, yeah, yeah. So so I, you know, I think part of that, to be quite honest with you, right? Like we can we can drill in, right? I mean, it's right through, right? Yeah, saving grace, saving grace, Jupiter. Okay, saving grace is Jupiter, right? Um, so you know, it's one of those things with that with knowing that energy, you're like, okay, let me um, you know, just be aware while I'm there. Um, but I think that having had that earthquake, I'm not saying there's more earthquakes coming, right?

SPEAKER_04 46:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:02

But what I'm saying is that that is the tenseness of the environment right now, there.

SPEAKER_05 46:07

And there's been plenty of them and plenty volcanic eruptions, so right, correct.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

And you know, I think we are this this is definitely the time for um where you where you'll be getting more of that, right? Um, so so you know, I'm not, you know, that is a bit of a of a concern here. Um, by the way, it goes east, it goes um left to right. So these are moving over here, right? Um and this is as of July 25th, right? So I would say, you know, going over there, just being aware. Now, I think a lot of that for you when you go there is just you're seeing the after effects, and that you know, people are gonna be on people are gonna feel very tense for obvious reasons, right? They just see the earthquake there, right? Um, I would say maybe stay away from those exact areas, right? Which I'm you know, I'm assuming that you will be doing, right?

SPEAKER_05 46:58

Um I mean I am going to the volcano that was just very active. Okay, man. Come on, brother.

SPEAKER_02 47:06

Okay, first of all, I looked at my personal charts. No, this is like such a side.

SPEAKER_00 47:11

Hold on a second. Let me look a look.

SPEAKER_05 47:14

I had now three dreams before I even knew that this volcano was there.

SPEAKER_03 47:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 47:21

About this volcano. And I kept like seeing this exact volcano, and I had two different dreams right away, like before I looked it up. And there was one like I was right by the ocean looking at this volcano. Um, and so like I was just like, okay, what is going on here? Why do I keep having this dream? And like, I think like two days later, is I got I saw a news article about this volcano that was around like it started like smoke started pluming from it or whatever. It's it's a perfectly cone-shaped volcano. It's the Mayan volcano in the Philippines. And it's basically right where the lines are. Um I was I it's just that that volcano has been drawing me in. And so I even told you, I'm like, we need we're gonna, we're gonna go there. And he's like, it's like a 10-hour drive. I'm like, we're doing it. I have to see this volcano. And so it's funny because now I'm like looking at this, I'm like, you know what, maybe we should wait.

SPEAKER_01 48:19

Maybe you should wait. So so you have a confluence of energies there. Your personal chart, you might mind if I share your personal chart about that?

SPEAKER_05 48:27

Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Because oh again, yeah, like for the listeners too, like me and Jess actually got our readings done uh with Dr. Steve too. And so yeah, you can you can go into mine because it's interesting because my my husband lives in the Philippines, and I would love to live in the Philippines, but Dr. Steve has some news for us.

SPEAKER_00 48:50

Well, what what did I first tell you when I did that when I did your reading? What did I tell you when I saw that?

SPEAKER_05 48:56

I don't know, you're just like, oh no, you cannot.

SPEAKER_01 48:59

You can't like um okay, so you had selected like five, six locations you you you wanted to deep dive into, and I hadn't looked at your chart with the astro mapping. So I'm I'm researching uh the week prior, and I'm going, I print out the list, I'm like, okay, checking off, and I see Philippines. Okay, cool. I look at your chart and I see you have a Pluto line on the ascendant that goes right through the Philippines, and I just cross off those two, yeah, and it goes right through, like it goes right through Colomba, like it right exactly where the house is.

SPEAKER_05 49:36

I'm like, oh man.

SPEAKER_01 49:38

You know, I mean, I was just like, um, okay, so I'm not gonna bother looking at those because I'm just gonna tell them. All right, so here it is, right? Jess, can you see that? This is it right through the now. Interesting enough, the the other line that's on the other chart goes kind of through here. So basically they're overlapping, right? So they're basically having that same influence, right? So he has a Pluto on the ascendant line, which is why he feels this pull, right? Because that's kind of the the um the draw of a Pluto line, right? It's it's it's the unknown, but it's there's a fascination, there's an obsessiveness about the Pluto line, right? Um, and so it makes people very uh relenting. Like, for instance, I have my Pluto um in my eighth house. So I'm very unrelenting when it comes to investigating. Like I need to know, I need to research, right? I need to get plumb the depth of whatever, right? Um, so with Alex here, it's on the ascendant. He's gonna be seen as a Plutonic figure, he's gonna be seen as being very intense over there. And I think you shared with me that you're like, yeah, I don't know if I'd fit there with that dynamic. Isn't that what you shared with me?

SPEAKER_05 50:51

Yeah, basically, and yeah, I definitely and I definitely stand out, but like I'm not, I I do I'm very different. Yeah. I am more reserved, and you know, they're also friendly, like everybody's so loving, like friend, well not love, like everybody's just so like outgoing and you know, singing karaoke everywhere. Like, I'm just so reserved. I stand out too, you know. I just stand out, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:13

So so the so that it makes it's not a surprise to me that you're like fascinated by this volcano and that you want to go visit, and you know, because that is very much a Plutonic theme that's set there. So that means this area holds, if you were to live there, it'd be tremendous transformation of who you are, right? Like you wouldn't recognize yourself by the time you live there, I don't know, say five years, ten years, or something along those lines, right? Um, the challenge with that is that that could come through some really intense, you know, it's you can take Pluto in bites, right? But it's kind of like taking the hot sauce and just kind of chugging it down, right? There's only so much we could do like that, right? That they have a contest or TV show about that, right? Hottest pepper or something like that. Someone take a ch, you know, bite out of the hottest pepper and blah blah blah, how long they can last before they kind of you know throw up or whatever. That's what Pluto's like, right? So so that's why I really advise against kind of like, oh, yeah, okay, let's find you another place to live. Visit fun, exciting, but you know, out. Don't don't don't spend too much time there.

SPEAKER_02 52:23

In and out, in and out, in and out, in and out.

SPEAKER_01 52:25

Take it, take small doses of that. Even when you're ready for that level of transformation, you know, okay, but this is like someone who goes deep into that dark side, shadow side, and and does shadow work, as you as you both know, right?

SPEAKER_05 52:39

So I love that kind of work.

SPEAKER_01 52:44

It would it would do that for you, it would bring that it bring that out. Now you would be seen as that by other people. That's a thing. Like you yourself, even your body would go on this transformation, right? It's personal to you.

SPEAKER_05 52:57

Yeah, I'm gonna come back like 100 pounds lighter, all of that could happen, right?

SPEAKER_01 53:03

Right, all of that could happen, right? But through this intense, transformative experience, yeah, set of experience for that. So, you know, not the most fun, but definitely it, but yeah, so so that yeah. So when you say that when I go to that volcano, I'm like, you know, maybe you know, not so close, but hey, you're gonna, you know, if you do, just just be careful, right? Because Pluto, you definitely want to be cautious, obviously, with with those type of things.

SPEAKER_05 53:29

Um I was just looking at AT ATV rides right up to the volcano.

SPEAKER_01 53:34

Of course, he is. Yeah, I mean, you're literally the personification of Pluto, which is what it says here. Pluto idea.

SPEAKER_05 53:40

Yeah, right. So that's what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_01 53:42

That's what he's doing, that's what's happening, yeah. So so you can see, and then if we go back to this other chart, right? Um you can see, right, this is where it is in the world. So it's basically going through that same area. So he's having the his own personal Pluto line energy there, and on top of that, there's also Pluto line going there on the earth itself. So the environment is Pluto, and then his personal experience of it is also Pluto, so pretty intense, pretty intense. And a volcano and riding up a volcano would absolutely by the way, I'm fascinated with volcanoes. I would love to get up close and kind of do those things where they take them the lava. That is actually, I'm I'm I'd be cool wanting to do that. Like maybe not when I know it's about to explode, but you know, where it's just like flowing and safe, right? But I'll still be able to get there. Yeah, I'm I'm okay with that. I could do that. Yeah, come with, it'll be fun. All right, right.

SPEAKER_05 54:37

I know you probably want to stay as far away from me there. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 54:41

Like you go first, come back, let me go by myself.

SPEAKER_05 54:44

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 54:48

Um, but yeah, so so so China looks to be good. Now, the other thing that you can do as well, which is what I did, was you can actually look to see eclipses, right? What's this upcoming eclipse in August gonna do? And I did that one recently, and that's when I was like, oh, there's some stuff happening here. Let me show you.

SPEAKER_05 55:07

Yeah, I was gonna I was gonna ask you about that too, because there's we had gone through eclipses one other time, I think in one of the previous podcasts, too.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

Oh, did we always remember, yeah, we did because we talked about Australia having difficulty and um and there was one that was coming up this year.

SPEAKER_05 55:26

Well, yes.

SPEAKER_01 55:28

You know, so it was really interesting to kind of see that come together. Uh, let's see here. By the day, okay, where is that? Oh, I know I need to do give me one second, I need to put these planets back on. Um, I was looking at this, I'm just like, what is going on here?

SPEAKER_05 55:47

Sorry, Jess, I made it all about me.

SPEAKER_02 55:50

Yeah, we're good.

SPEAKER_01 55:53

Listen, this is okay. Where are we at here? Okay, so of course, huh? That's interesting. I was looking at this before and I had seen this. Okay, let me make sure I do this correctly. All right, and the sun, where is oh, okay, that's why. Okay, so here's the moon, here's the sun, right? And that's you know, obviously that's when the eclipse is gonna happen. And so I'm gonna I need to pull this back here. Um, okay. Look where the sun is gonna be overhead, right over Tokyo. And look at this. The eclipse, in terms of geodetics, is gonna be right over um right over Tokyo. This is connected to their MC. So, what that means, okay, and I want to um clear uh clear something up. This the eclipse is not going over there, meaning the shadow. This is the effect of the astrological uh conjunction that's happening, which is different than the eclipse path. That's very different. You can look on the eclipse path and you'll see the eclipse path, by the way, is actually Greenland, Iceland, Spain, and Portugal, and parts of Europe.

SPEAKER_05 57:12

Okay, Greenland is interesting.

SPEAKER_01 57:14

Yeah, so Greenland, by the way, will be back in the news. We can have another class about that. But yeah, Greenland is back on the menu. Let's put it that way. Um, I had talked about that before. Um I was like, no, this is we're not done yet with that one. So um, but since now I have this astro cartography and astro mapping geodetics, I can now drill in more specifically on countries and what effects will be. So in Japan, the MC line um is connected to the government. So I'm expecting some major governmental shakeup news. Um, and already leading up to all this, this is something going on with their currency, their economy. And so this is gonna be the government trying to um intervene in that. And so you there might be a big shakeup in the government connected to that. So something's happening in Japan. It's gonna be pretty significant. It's gonna be pretty significant. So pay attention to that. Um, remember the eclipse effects happen, have a six-month window, so August until February of 27. But really within the first month is when you can expect probably the biggest news coming out of Tokyo. Um so, and they unfortunately have not fared well with the um oil um shortage, right? Uh which is interesting because you know they're a very rich nation, but the way their economy is set up, they're very fragile and susceptible to these shortages. They they import something like 90% of their oil comes from the Gulf. And so any little you know, let up, if you will, has and now they're starting to experience inflation, which the Japanese never do, have never had. So there's big changes coming up for Japan over these next years.

SPEAKER_02 59:07

But also, it's interesting, and um, you know, because we've talked about AI being a bigger deal this year, and Japan is huge with AI, so that would be that would be interesting to see how they uh how that's being incorporated, and it is being incorporated.

SPEAKER_01 59:27

So, yes, there will be some big news with AI news in there as well. There will be now moving off to the United States. We can then see, okay, where is this eclipse energy also for the United States? And this is the other thing that concerned me because it's literally over the same part of the country again, LA, Southern California, right? So in astrology, when you see it once, okay, when you see it twice, right? You're like, okay, what's really going on here? So there's something with Southern California happening. Now, eclipses are when um it's it's like a new thing is beginning, right? And one thing I already know is that, oh, it just occurred to me, we can look at the election, um, the election chart for the midterms. Um this speaks to new people becoming into the government, right? And um, I don't know if you've been keeping up with the LA uh politics. Uh the concert, the the Democrat, right, the incumbent, is being challenged by a Democratic socialist similar to momdani. And so this is kind of taking roots, right? This is this would be if she would if she were to win, which I think might actually happen, because this eclipse talks about something new, and again, eclipses are always bad for the people, the ruling power, the people, some the people in um in charge, because it's it it tends to mean that they get overthrown, okay? As a general. I'm sorry. You're saying something, Alex? I'm sorry. Oh no, I was just I was just saying, like, hmm, yeah, it's interesting. So so I really think that speaks to in Southern California, this new thing coming on is this new mayor, right? And I think I think she may win as a result of that, and so that speaks to that. It also speaks to kind of the continued difficulties I see bit possibly with California um happening with the stuff we talked about previously, but under this eclipse energy, geodetically, it represents this change, right? And this is how astrology works, right? Like when you when you kind of see stuff like that happening, like, oh okay, you're already seeing it's set up, and then now you can kind of lean more one way versus with your predictions versus the other. And this one definitely predicts, leans more towards like, oh, okay, just like California, just like New York, Mam Dani. Now we have um now. Interestingly enough, here's here's where you see just patterns. He's of Indian descent. The woman that's going against um the current mayor, I can't remember her name, she's um this democratic socialist, she's also Indian descent. So, you know, this is fascinating the way astrology just peeps the cards, if you will, right? There's a theme, right? I also relate it to Usha Vance, um, Vance, um the second lady, right? Indian descent. You're seeing um people of Indian descent, Indian Americans, rising in prominence, right? It's very evident, right? And that's I just find it really cool. Like, wow, okay, this is their time, if you will, right? Um and so um Vivek um Roshamwani, I can't remember his name, but Vivek, right? That that guy, right? And again, you see all talk about it's across the spectrum, Democrat or Republican or Democratic Socialist, right? It's irrespective of that. What the astrology is saying is that they're coming into prominence, right? Just like, say, back in the 60s and 70s, African Americans would come into prominence and running and being the first, this, that, the other deal, right? Now you're seeing another ethnic group kind of coming into prominence. The same way back JFK became the first um Irish person um elected, right? So you so you see this nation of immigrants, it's kind of like each immigrant is getting a chance to kind of come into their prominence, and we're seeing that now with um with Mamdani and the um people of Indian heritage, which is really kind of cool, right? So um so that's what we're seeing here. So basically, this is happening all over the West Coast, but this one kind of goes through Nevada, um, but on an angle, right? So pretty fascinating though, right? Yeah, right. This form of astrology has opened up someone like me who already loves history. Now I can map it where in the world it's happening. You can just get a better sense because it's like, oh, okay, I know what's going on in the race down there, and you see, oh wow, they're also having a um a total eclipse energy, you know, happening over there as well. You know, you can weave that into your interpretation and understandings. But let's um November what is the election? If someone will look at November 3rd. Okay. He's like, boom, I already knew that one, right? November 3rd.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:19

You better know that one.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:20

Let's go with that one. Okay. Um, November 3rd, 2026. All right. So for this one, we want to uh we're gonna look over DC, right? Because that's it give you the flavor for the nation. Okay. Now, when I saw this, now you know, I know what I I know the conviction I feel about it, right? Um, but I don't want anyone to kind of just say, oh, he said all this. But I'll I'll tell you my conviction, absolutely. But normally I would look at other things as well. I would actually look at the chart of um the chart itself. But when I saw this, this was very strong indication for me that it's gonna be a democratic win. Okay, and why do I say that? Well, it's just straight up astrology, right? Um, the party that is known as being very restrictive, that's you know, uh people are associating with people taking people's rights away and being more harsh, right? That's the Republican Party, right? Let's just be very honest, right? And they're they're they're viewed as this, right? Restrictiveness. The planets that represent um peace loving, harmony, more liberal views, right? Those planets are like the moon and Venus, especially Venus. And look what we have running over DC on that day. We have Venus on the descendant, meaning Venus is coming through other people. They're going to be um the country is going to have other um have the Venusian energy coming from other people. They're gonna be seen as Venusian. That making sense, yeah. And that's more liberal, and that's the Democrats, right? So the same way I called it for Trump before, because it was very evident to see, right? Now I didn't have this one, I just had the other ones to look at, right? But it was very evident to see who's gonna win, right? Um, this one I just call it, I just call astrology. I, you know, balls and strikes for me, right? Uh, I keep my personal politics out of it, right? This right here, when I see this, I'm like, oh, okay, this is wild. Now I'm not gonna say they're gonna run the board, but the flavor is liberal. The flavor, the right, what the coloring of the nation, if you will, right? Washington, DC will more go for the Democrats. It's gonna go under a more liberal uh flavor for that. Right, and it's just really that simple. I don't complicate it much more than that. People can look at all these other charts, and I've read them and I listened to them as well. But I've done this enough for myself, and you know, I've talked to you guys, right? I keep it simple. When I saw this line, I was like, oh, okay, done. Right. So let's see, right? You know, we will just have to see if that'll be the case, right? But that's definitely November 3rd, 2026. And by the way, this is where DC is located. Let me show you, drill in on that. That's that's DC. That's the Venus line. By the way, this Venus line is after that. So if we just go before, then that means leading up to it. Right? Uh, let's go back. Oh, the here's the other thing I want to um tell you about as well. This is Venus retrograde. That's okay, that's what I meant to tell you guys. This is Venus retrograde energy. Okay. Um put that back in again. And why is that important in what we're talking about? Because it means a return of the Democrats. Okay. Right? So it even gives you the kind of um storyline as well, because Venus is retrograde from October 3rd to November 13th, uh, to November 13th of this year. And Venus will be retrograding, right? So that means it's gonna be very slow over this these degrees, and so it means the return of liberal policies. That's literally the translation.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:14

So what's November 7th, 2028?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:18

Okay, well, we can we can have fun with that one, right? November 7th? Yeah, 2028. Okay, ah, don't hold this me to this. Oh wow. Oh, okay. Okay, you're not gonna like it. Well, anyway, go ahead. No, first question. Politics out, politics out. Um, now mind you, I have to look, I would have to look at the the chart overall, and I would do my deeper analysis with this. But when I see this, I see um what's the what's the party of big money? Yeah, yeah. Republican, right? Now you have um Jupiter, right, close by. But look at this. Venus is not far back, right? So it's almost like uh, I'm not gonna say it's equal footing, but definitely the closer energy is this um Jupitarian, and I tend to see them as more the uh standard bearers of the Republican Party. That's my personal view. Um, and I've I've seen it work out. I will tell you, let me give you a quick story of how I came across this. When in 2018, I was you know, still doing this and I was still learning, right? And I looked into the chart at that time, it was DeSantis who's running for the first time, and there was a uh the uh the black gentleman, I forgot his name in Florida. He was running. And at the same time, there was the um the black woman in uh Georgia, she was running as well. And again, her name escapes me at the moment. Um God, but I can see her. Can you guys fill in the blank for me? Can you look it up real quick who that was? Yeah, I'm gonna look it up. Um, because you remember as soon as I say it, it as soon as you find it. So she was running as well, okay? And so I'm looking at that chart for the election, and I see that Venus is in its own sign, but retrograde. And then I see the Republican candidate DeSantis is in a stronger right position. Abrams, Abrams, Stacy Abrams, right? And when it was retrograde, you know what happened? They had to do a runoff. I don't know if you remember that, right? Um, they had to do a runoff for her, and I remember thinking, oh, okay, there were transits that were not gonna come back until later. And I was like, you know what? Those people are represented, you know, the more liberal party, and so that's the Democrats, um, the Venus energy, right? Wasn't that strong, and they had to redo something, right? And sure enough, um, she lost, and so did he, and then and and uh DeSantis got in. Okay, and that's the first clue that I noticed. I was like, oh wow, that's interesting. Um, this might work that way. So I just looked it over and over again, and I was like, yep, that is always the case, at least the way I look at astrology, that really does work. So when I see this, it tells me again, I have to look at the other other aspects of the chart, but when I see this close to it, I I and this could also mean a really close race as well, right? But generally, if if you were to ask me, just shotgun it without like you know, looking, it it's it's it looks to be more um Republican for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:41

Uh now I'm looking up to see who who's the uh who the other dude is.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:45

Yeah, find him who he was because he cracked he crashed and burned, by the way. Yeah, he crashed and burned in a big way. Um god, as soon as you say his name, it it'll pop in my head.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:59

Um it was uh Gill.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:00

Gillum. Gillam. And yeah, Andrew Gillam. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, what was interesting about that one that really brought it home was they were, I'm gonna go a little Vedic here. They were in the nakshatra. Nakshatras are like smaller divisions of the overall horoscope of the um um sign. And his was both of them actually, but his in particular was in a nakshatra called Chitra. Chitra is the pearl, right? That's very lustrous, it looks nice, like very Venusian, right? And he was good looking. He was like had all the projections of a very good um energy, right? But there were all these aspects to him, and then it was retrograde and whatnot. And and it was a it was close, and then he lost, right? Um, so that's really when I started delving into that part, it just more clearly defined who it who it was for him. Um, so so that's kind of what happened. I'm not sure if you kind of knew what happened with him afterwards. Did you ever hear what happened?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:01

No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:03

Um six months later, I don't know, a year later, something like six months later, he was found in a hotel room with uh male prostitutes with drugs.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:13

Right on, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:14

Like he completely crashed, like he completely crashed and burned. That's it's it's just nuts. And here's why it was nuts because I saw aspects to it, right? And by the way, his was like he's all wholesome, family man, kids, you know, church, all this other stuff, right? Um, but obviously had this other life. So I kept wondering what are these aspects? What are these other negative aspects? And I kind of forgotten about it, and then when I saw it, I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense, right? Those are the aspects. So sometimes in astrology, you don't know, right? At the point you just see something, uh, there's something, you know, there's some challenging aspects here. What does that represent? Well, he had that chitra that looked good, right? But you know, living his life differently, if you will, right? So, anyway, that is what is when I first started noticing that I give more liberals to um Venus and the moon and more Venus, and then the more established, if you will, to Jupiter. Okay. So that's kind of like my shorthand for that, to be quite honest with you.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:22

Shorthand. Love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:24

Yeah, it is. So so yeah, so so you know, like I said, I this is the first time I'm doing it. So um, I normally I would I'm I really don't even pay attention to it until we get closer to it, and then I you know start looking. And by closer, I mean like a year out, yeah. Because I like to have my head on straight.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:39

So I just I would just be like, all right, who are all these potential candidates? And there we are, let's yeah, putting them in.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:50

And we can do that as we get closer to it, right? We can kind of start filtering people out. I've actually been looking, and so I've been put, I have a database of all the people that've been talking about even from 2024 election, right? Like, who are the potentials? And I look to see whose chart, and now I have a newer tool that I can then plug into, like a who has a better connection with DC, right? That and and so that's gonna be really helpful. So, this level of astrology for me is so much fun because um, because then you can learn too, right? You can be like you can fine-tune it, and then at some point be like, okay, here's what it says, more than likely it's this, da-da-da-da-da. Right. So um, but yeah, this is a fascinating one. But remember, I didn't I didn't get a chance to look at the aspects to all of these, if you will. Um, I'm just gonna zoom out just for fun for myself. Okay, so let's see. Yeah, okay. So you have Neptune here, you have Venus here, Jupiter here, you have the lines. There's a faded line, uh nodal line. So it's it's almost like whoever gets elected absolutely is like their fate, right? And also the fate of the nation to have. I will tell you, remember, I've done these predictions before about 2030 and you know, these next seven years. Whoever gets elected in 28, they're the one that takes us into war in 2030, right? Like, so that I'm just putting it out there, just you know, everyone can see it, can hear it now. I I've been saying that for a while. Whoever gets elected in 28, because remember, the bigger context is this, ladies and gentlemen. Uranus in Gemini from 2026 and 20 until 2032 has always completely changed the country, right? We've come out the other end, and this time we could come out in ways that we don't recognize this country, right? I've said that before. So, and part of the reason is because what happens in 2028 is because of the economic crisis that's coming in 27, 28, that you know, it's like, okay, we're gonna elect this person to fix the problem. One of the things that they always do to fix problems is always go to war, right? That's kind of how it works. That and the fact that Uranus and Gemini has always brought the United States in a war. This thing with Iran for me was always like the appetizer, to be quite honest with you. Like, I was not even, you know, it's unfortunate, it's all that stuff, but I was like, that's not what I'm paying attention to, to be quite honest with you. Okay, because what happens in 28, they go into war, and then 2030, 2030 comes around, and the economic and the the tumult that all brings up that brings about basically causes us to reassess everything, our currency, our like I've looked at the US dollar, the chart of the US dollar, it ends in 20, you know, in 2033, 34. Right? Like it's time the time that was brought, can was born, right? 250 years later is like in 2030s, early 2030s, right? So all those institutions, the constitution, all of that stuff is gonna be be is gonna be rewritten between 2030 and 2032, 30, 2033.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:58

For the for the betterment.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:00

Well, here's the thing. Well, I have said this repeatedly, and I I've come to understand my opinion that United States is the country that's gonna take us into the Aquarian age. Okay, and you're seeing that being set up now. You have different races, different um uh uh ethnicities, religions, uh sexual preferences, right? This is a very um um aquarious, Aquarian themed country, right? The founding fathers, when they founded it, they didn't know they were doing that, right? But astrology takes precedence, right? We are at the tail end of the 2,000 years of the Piscean Age, we are moving into the Aquarian age, and this country has um the moon in Aquarius, and so our people are Aquarian, right? So even though they started, they thought it was one way, we were always gonna morph into this Aquarian nation, and so that's what I feel confident in knowing. Like, yeah, it's gonna be it might be a different country, but it will be Aquarian, right? It'll be more Aquarian than what it is. So we will have, you know, LGBTQ, we'll have interracial couples, we'll have different ethnicities, right? Like this melting pot, right? That's being resisted. That's why I've I've said they can't fight this. Excuse me, they can fight this, they can't win it. Right, yeah, let's be very clear, right? And I say this to people, and so if they're people hearing this, like, you know, I'm like, I don't know what to tell you. Like, this is an Aquarian country, and the astrology shows that way. So I'm so even if there might be pains along the way, I know that this is where it's moving towards. Okay. And so the new constitution, the new way that uh that we are uh that we rewrite our um way of being in this country is gonna be along those those lines, if you will, right? So I'm I feel very confident. I I'm not even, you know, it's it's more like, oh, see how it comes about, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:20:06

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:07

But but I I really do feel confident with it. Yeah, I'm not now whether or not we stay as one country that way, this is this is where it's kind of like, oh, I'm not sure how that, you know, to be quite honest with you. But you know, this country will will morph, right? It it will it will morph. Um, but the core ideals will be Aquarian, and that's what we are the vanguard of that.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:30

The difficulty comes because we want something kind of how it was before, and that's what we have to let go of, right? We really do, because even on the democratic side, like they no, we're not going back there. That's not happening, right? We're doing something new, but it's more in line with what we want to do. Is that making sense?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:48

Yeah, more just as one, not as separate, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:52

Yeah, yeah. I think we will come as one, but I think the separateness will be those who are resisting to it, right? They will, you know, you'll have, I'll be honest with you, you'll have your Idaho's, you might have your North and South Dakotas, right? Like they may be like, okay, we're, you know, we want to do our own thing, right? That may happen, right? You you may see some significant, you know, that may be part of that. Um, it's gonna be um it's gonna be a huge economic revitalization because we have so much potential in this country. If we go back to some of these positive things of like regenerative agriculture, um instead of just all this big tech company stuff like that, we'll have parts of that, but I think we'll by necessity we'll need to have smaller farms so we can feed each other, right? Things like that. If that makes sense. So that's why I'm really kind of excited because it's kind of like we get a mishmash of some of the good stuff that we had before, but also now powered by all this rejupl, um regenerative um energy that United States has has always kind of been about, even though they didn't think of it like that, right? Or they didn't include everybody into that conversation, let's put it that way.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:02

So, no, I'm I'm I'm really very confident too. I mean, or very optimistic, to be quite honest with you. It's it's just that I know that this needs to be demolished uh as it is, and just something new coming along, right? Um yeah, yeah. So um, but it's just so fascinating to see it in the chart, right? It it really is just being able to see, like, oh yeah, just the map of the future right here. I mean, we're we're talking about it, we're talking about it. Um, definitely agricultural crisis will will be coming, and that's part of this because Saturn, when it moves into Taurus, which is a sign of agriculture, right? Um, is gonna cause difficulties in the agricultural system. But you can actually see that happening now. Why? Because this oil embargo and this oil shortage and so on and so forth, right? Part of that is not just oil, but things that are made from petrochemicals, which are fertilizer. And so unfortunately, I'm really concerned with other parts of the country uh world can't handle as much as better as better as we can, but even us will have some difficulties under the agricultural fund, high inflation, um, you know, food shortages, things like that. I mean, I don't think it'll get as bad as obviously other nations that are you know less prepared or you know less resilient, but we'll have a version of that when Saturn goes into Taurus, which is the agricultural sign, and because of the short of the agriculture, because you have to plant certain things before then, right? And if they don't get planted, you've missed that season. And they've been missing them, right? So you see it's already being set up for Taurus, Saturn and Taurus, right? And that's 2028 until 2030. All right. So you already see that's being set up for what we're looking at here. Um, so I really try and take this longer view of things because it makes it like one flows into the next. And flows, oh, that's why, right? And if you know that's Gemini and uh Uranus and Gemini has caused this change, you're like, oh, that's from 2026, 2032. You see the steps along the way that create the crises that then means that you have to reform everything, right? And that's what we get. But it's gonna make us more resilient, and we're gonna come out of that um a stronger people because of it. Like, I have no doubt about it, right? It's just yeah, yeah, I have no doubt about it. So I'm excited, but it's also scary, but scary and exciting. Scary and exciting. Scary exciting, yeah. But this astral mapping really kind of points you along the you know, where you can see some things with it for sure. Um, so yeah, so it looks like we're gonna get a um, you know, uh more democratic uh policies coming back in. And by the way, that's the other reason why I mentioned that because it was a retrograde. I was like, oh, they're returning to power. Yeah. Yeah. So we can we can focus on 2026 for now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:55

So one month at a time.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:57

One month at a time, one year at a time.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:00

No, we still have we we still have some podcasts for the rest of the year because we got some stuff to cover, I know.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:07

Right, right, right, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:09

Um, I'm curious though, uh, and I know I I know we're kind of getting to the end of what we're gonna be talking about, but are you so you know, like I like I know you do classes, so are you going to be teaching a class on astro cartography? Because I know you I I I don't want to say it, but I I know you mentioned it. So I'm like, I'm I'm curious because I know some of the listeners are very interested too.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:35

And so I would, I would yes, I'm planning on I'm planning on doing that, and um, yeah, we can talk offline and kind of putting that together. I'm more or less it's kind of done, to be honest with you. It's just a matter of like, okay, picking a date. I'm waiting until after it's retrograde to kind of find a good a good time. And yeah, I'd be very happy to um share what I've learned, um, especially with the software, because to be honest with you, part of the battle was learning how to use the software appropriately. Yeah. Um, but even just understand it's the techniques, and they are powerful, they are powerful. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:08

So absolutely know that you have a lot of people that are gonna be interested in learning from you. So yeah, I just wanted to throw that out there, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:17

Thank you. No, I appreciate it. Yeah, and it's happening more and more. I've I'm glad I came across this for my own personal life. It it's explained a lot. I've looked at one of the things that people can do when they do this is they can go through their own life. Like, what was going on here at this time when I was getting this transit, or when you moved to this location, what was that like? Right. Um, and it's I went back all the way to high school and I just kind of clicked and went through, and I was like, oh, oh wow, oh, okay, yep. I remember that happened then. I remember that happened then. And um, it's very um gratifying because it explains a lot of things as to why you know you're going under the other the good stuff, obviously, but also the pressures, right? And it allowed me to be like, you know, okay, it wasn't just me. Like there was things going on that I wasn't aware of, you know. Um, and so yeah, it's really kind of cool. It's really kind of cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:11

So yeah, I can't I can't live up in our the family, my husband's family farm because there's been like three fires over there. Pluto goes straight through.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:21

Do you mind telling them? Do you mind telling them um the line that goes? Well, let me tell you the line that goes to that, and then you tell them the story that goes along with it. Is that cool? Sure, I'll try. Okay, so um doing her chart, and she has a I remember it, she has a Venus Pluto line that rolls through there, that goes through the family farms. And so I remember thinking, Venus and Pluto, okay, that could be pretty explosive. That could be interesting. Well, you know, what was going on over there? And so I now you can tell them what was going on over there.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:54

Yeah, so my husband's farm is up there. He brought me out to that farm and we got engaged at the farm. Um, but also like we've like I said, we've had fires there. I've got physically hurt there.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:11

Um really badly hurt.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:13

Yeah, and um yeah, it it was just it's just funny how and we were only there together living there for six months. But he and I'm not sure about what where his line is with that Pluto, but um but yeah, I mean he's had troubles up there as well. So it's just fascinating. I think that same line kind of goes down to Midorah as well, and so That's where we also got married, that Venus line. So it's just funny how it all happens.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:46

The thing that stood out to me was Venus represents marriage, Venus represents, right? And then you had this Pluto. I'm like, what's so when you told me that you literally were proposed to in that in that house, right? I was just like, wow, that is literally a literal representation of that um dynamic.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:03

I mean, whatever could have got whatever could have gone wrong in that house has gone wrong. So it's just funny that we no longer are there. We don't we were like, let's get out.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:17

Smart move. So um, so I remember thinking, like, yeah, if you have to go, short, short visits, right? And don't say overnight.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:27

I don't know anymore.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:29

I well, it's fat. I mean, for me, that's I was shocked too. I was like, wow, that's okay. Because some okay, JFK, he went along his lines and he had all these really bad lines for um uh Dallas, Texas at that time, right? And so typically, you know, you don't have to spend that, you have to spend a little bit of time in a city for its energy to kind of manifest. But of course, obviously his manifested, you know, right then and there, but it's not always like that. But in your case, it was like that, right? Like you were there for six months, and then you know, all these things were going on. So, but even the fact that you were proposed to there, right? That's a very Venusian theme. That's marriage, right? And I was like, wow, that is uh it even surprised me, is what I'm saying. I was talking that one. That that was that's one of my cool stories I I tell people now.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:16

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:17

Minus your name.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:18

I mean, like, I have a client. Yeah, no, it's a it's um eye-opening, just some of the things, and what if what's you know happened since having that reading and and who I ran into and all that.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:34

Oh my goodness, that was yeah, yeah. So stay tuned because that there's definitely something coming with that. Um with all the astral mapping and and what you what you can do with it and and such. So yeah, I'm glad that you guys kind of had me on to kind of talk about this. It's been my new passion for the last three months. I've literally holed up here six, seven, ten, twelve hours a day, kind of just going through charts and learning your whole system. It's been you know, for a nerd like me, hey, that's that's that's beautiful. Yeah, I can do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:05

Well, you you are good at it, so yeah. If you want to get a hold of Steve, how do we get a hold of you now?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:13

Sure. Um, I have this amazing website done by somebody, Jessica, um, deepdive with drsteve.com. Um, all one word, deepdive with drsteve.com. Um, you can I'm definitely available for readings, uh, done by Zoom, and I have all my services uh available. Uh typically NATO chart um is where the best way to start. But if you want an astro map, um, you know, that service is available. I also do relocation for couples as well. Uh thank you, Alex. Yeah. Uh so yeah, it's it's it's a it's a full astrological service that I that that I provide. So deep dive with drsteve.com. That's me.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:57

Hopefully, someday we'll get you on social media.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:00

But yeah, it's it's it's good. Yeah, we're moving there. We're moving there. I can definitely go. It's it's happening.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:06

Well, thanks for hopping on and giving us your brain.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:11

So appreciate it. Thank you for having me. It's always fun, it really is.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:15

We'll talk soon. We're gonna have you on plenty other podcasts.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:18

Awesome. Thank you, sir. See y'all. Stop recording.