Eclipses with Dr Steve

This episode dives deep into the powerful August 12th solar eclipse in Leo with returning guest Dr. Steve of Deep Dive with Dr. Steve. He breaks down how eclipses have historically triggered leadership upheaval throughout history and across cultures, then applies this framework to a detailed astrological analysis of both Donald Trump's and JD Vance's natal charts — predicting potential health challenges, political shifts, and family dynamics tied to the eclipse's effects over the coming six months. The conversation also covers the difference between solar and lunar eclipses, "world point" degrees and their historical significance, and wraps up with some fun pop-culture astrology, including World Cup predictions using astro-cartography and speculation about Taylor Swift's wedding timing.

Timestamped Show Notes

• 0:00 — Introduction and welcoming Dr. Steve
• 2:11 — Eclipse basics: seasons, six-month effects, solar vs. lunar
• 4:29 — Historical eclipses and leadership upheaval (2017 eclipse & Me Too movement)
• 7:14 — Where the eclipse "lands" geographically (Greenland, Spain, UK)
• 10:01 — Solar vs. lunar eclipse differences explained
• 16:04 — Deep dive into Trump's natal chart and the eclipse's placement
• 25:23 — World points, Mars in Cancer, and predicted world events
• 28:52 — Predictions on Trump's health and effectiveness
• 38:26 — JD Vance's chart and the same eclipse's impact on him
• 40:57 — Career and family implications for Vance
• 55:01 — Timing predictions: September/October developments, Venus retrograde
• 57:32 — How eclipse degrees echo in future transits (Mars hitting 20° Leo on Election Day)
• 63:12 — Recap and outlook for the next six months
• 69:00 — Fun pop culture astrology: World Cup predictions, Taylor Swift wedding speculation
• 76:40 — Closing thoughts and where to find Dr. Steve

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:41

Welcome everybody. I'm here with my co-host Jess. And today we have Dr. Steve with us. We are going to be talking about eclipses today because eclipses are some of the most powerful turning points that we can experience in astrology. And so we are really lucky to have Dr. Steve back with us to explain a little bit more about eclipses since we have that eclipse coming on August 12th in Leo. And so, Dr. Steve, welcome back. Welcome back, Jess. Sorry I didn't even let you talk this time. Hello. Yeah, welcome.

SPEAKER_03 1:18

Thank you. Thank you for having me back. Always exciting to uh to kind of share with you and share with your audience. Uh, you know, we this eclipse is gonna be pretty powerful, pretty rocking. So, you know, definitely excited to kind of share with um with the audience.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

Nice. Well, we are so glad to have you. Um before we begin, I'd like to ask you a very random question.

SPEAKER_03 1:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:45

What is your favorite sign? Zodiac sign.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

Wow. Uh my favorite sign. Um interesting. Uh man, that is interesting. You know, I I don't know if it's because I'm partial to it, but I I do like Pisces. Um, I'm I'm a Pisces rising, so I think it's because I know it so well. Um, but it it's connected to my mystical side, and so and so Pisces is I I think kind of I I tend to gravitate towards that quite a bit. Um, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

I had to throw you to the wolves because you've introduced yourself a couple times on our podcast. So I was like, I'm just gonna throw this one out there.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

That's a good one. Yeah, that's perfect. Happy to do it. Yeah, no, I love it. I love it, yeah. Any kind of strollogy question for sure.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

So, yeah, tell us a little bit about the eclipse. Like, we have the eclipse coming on August 12th.

SPEAKER_03 2:36

So oh my goodness. Listen, um, I think um people people are gonna have been waiting for this one, let's just put it that way. Um, and so in terms of its effects, right? So eclipses, um, we have two eclipse seasons every year, and so this is the second one. So the first one's usually in the springtime, and then we have this one coming summer, uh, fall area, and they have their influence for six months. So whatever occurs will unfold over the next six months in terms of its after effects. Um, you know, we call it eclipse season because for that two weeks where you have the um solar eclipse and you have the lunar eclipse, or sometimes it's reverse, you know, those are kind of the the two that happen every time. And so um you are basically starting a series of events that are pivotal, and they, you know, are usually culminations, but they can also be beginnings, they can also be endings. Um, regardless of which one happens, it is always has a very faded feeling about it, where people are kind of drawn into the set of experiences, right? And if they are on your um personal planets, right? Let's say they're um on, you know, it's this one is specifically at 20 degrees of Leo. I happen to know several people who it's gonna be hitting their sun, right? Their personal sun, their natal sun in Leo, uh, indicating some some some series of events that will kind of get them um connected with that and and be transformative in those areas of their lives. Um, and so it's it's it's really just very powerful. I should also preface this by saying the eclipses are caused by the, you know, as we know, by the shadows, right? So the sun looks like it's being eclipsed, you know, the moon is covering over, and then um, and vice versa with the lunar eclipse, if you will. And to the ancient peoples, that was very um, and I don't want to make them sound simplistic or it's gonna sound like, oh my god, they but it really the astronomical effect actually has a very real world effect if if we analogize it, right? So, for instance, the sun is your power, your personal power on the world stage, it represents leadership. In ancient days, it would have been the king, the ruler, right? And his power and authority is getting eclipsed, right? So, this is the kind of the literal meaning. And so these were times where uh there could have been a coup attempt, an overthrow attempt, things of things of this nature. And so that's why they were always looked upon as the thing that the court astrologer, they had them back then, was supposed to foretell the king when that was going to potentially happen. And we're talking across cultures, uh, Chinese cultures, definitely Indian culture, Western culture, Mesopotamian, right? They were always on the lookout for eclipses. Um, and so it usually portended some type of leadership change. Let me give you an example. Back in 2017, we had the um the great solar eclipse uh in the United States, and that's the one that went from northwest corner out in the west and went across the United States, okay, um, out the East Coast, and that happened in August, September, and that also happened in Leo, by the way. I think it was very late Leo. The following month is when we had the beginning of the Me Too movement, which was highlighting the excesses of particularly men, particularly men in the entertainment industry, but across all swaths, but men in power, right? And that's what got eclipsed, and that's why all of a sudden there was all of these men that just all of a sudden it seemed like they were just caught up, if you will. There was wrongdoing. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying all of a sudden it's like seemingly powerful people before their power got eclipsed and they had no way to react, right? They were ineffective to access their power, and that's literally what an eclipse does, right? It paralyzes that power and the planet that it represents. Okay, so any another thing that uh kind of uh clue here is any planet with the eclipse also gets eclipsed. Okay, so this eclipse, sun and the moon, right? So the sun's getting eclipsed, but then Jupiter and Mercury are there as well, and so those are powers that are going to be eclipsed. So the person's ability to communicate and speech, right? Um, Jupiter is there as well, so their access to their sense of optimism is going to be eclipsed, okay? So it is fascinating to see how this will play out, and you'll and you'll see those themes get intertwined as well. Okay, so it's really think of it almost like a parallel uh they're paralyzed as it relates to what that planet means, and they don't have access to it as it used to before. Okay, and it's very apparent on the world stage. One, two, um, where the eclipse pattern happens, meaning where it actually occurs on the earth, is usually highlighted. It's I mean, it's gonna have an impact in terms of you know people's charts and your native planets, this and that. But if you want to know where specifically on the earth that shadowed uh uh that pathway of the eclipse occurs, that's usually the the highlight of the eclipse. So this one, interestingly enough, is over Greenland. So Greenland's gonna come back in the news, and it goes over Spain, goes over the northern Europe, right? Parts of um uh within the show within the pathway, parts of England, parts of um uh Ireland. And so we're going to see, in fact, you actually have already seen, um, I'm sure your uh people know that there's a new prime minister. If I remember correctly, this is the seventh one in 10 years. I remember reading that just recently. Um, and so even though the eclipse happened before the eclipse, this new prime minister got inaugurated or whatever that they do this week, that part of the world is becoming in the news, right? So I'm expecting something with Spain, I'm expecting something with the Spanish with the Spanish leadership as well. Uh, we're definitely going to see stuff with uh Greenland come back around again, um, kind of what Trump was talking about, and you know, all this other stuff. That's gonna be that that's coming back. And I've been saying that Jess and I, we talked, I think um, Alice and I talked before about that as well. That, you know, everyone's like, oh, okay, good. This whole thing is, you know, done with the Greenland and da-da-da. Nope. I was like, you know, it's coming back around again. And here we are. So next month we can see that beginning, and it will be unfold over um into February to the next set of eclipses. So that's kind of a general setup. You know, we'll look at Trump's chart and some other ones, but that hopefully that kind of gives you a little beginning as to kind of what it is and where we can expect some uh some juicy news.

SPEAKER_02 9:51

So this one is gonna be a solar eclipse, correct?

SPEAKER_03 9:55

Yes, correct.

SPEAKER_02 9:55

So is there a difference? I mean, there's obviously a huge a difference between a solar and a lunar, but when they are on the charts, what is the difference between the two?

SPEAKER_03 10:07

Yeah, so um, you know, let's just jump over to this uh to the lunar side. So the lunar, as you might imagine, it can be more subtle. Not can be, it usually is, right? Um, and so it on the world stage or in mundane astrology, the the moon represents the people, how people are feeling, okay. And so you can kind of get a uh um a barometer as to how people are feeling and um what's motivating them, right? What's pushing their buttons if if that's the case. Um again, when the the moon is eclipsed, that means the person doesn't have access to their rational mind, their emotional mind. So they literally can just go just act completely emotionally and just kind of whatever is happening, they just re- they're super reactive, right? And so uh unfortunately you you'll you'll you'll find those with mass hysteria type uh scenarios, right? That that can be kind of like the worst uh manifestation of that. I'm not necessarily predicting for this one, but I'm just thinking that's kind of what you see when it comes when it comes to that. It's much more subtle um effect, unless, of course, it happens it happens to hit very specific degrees. I didn't look at this lunar one, I almost always focus on the solar eclipse. The solar eclipses are the ones that are like very often the big ones in the news, right? Um it and it because it represents the leadership, okay, um, whether they're male or female, right? Um, but it represents the leadership. So that's usually where you're seeing, okay, there's gonna be a change in government, there's gonna be um governmental turmoil, there's gonna, you know, things like this. So uh the lunar is much more um of a more subtle, okay. It's not necessarily as evident, um, you know, on the world stage, but you know, certain ones for sure can can have their can have their impacts. Um where people kind of say lose their minds, if you will. Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

Do you do you feel like eclipses are like when we look think about merch Mercury retrogrades, we think, oh crap, it's coming. Do we feel the same way about eclipses? Or I mean is there good that comes from these things?

SPEAKER_03 12:19

Or absolutely, yeah, absolutely. You know, um, let's put it this way, it's almost like you I think of Mercury retrogrades as the universe saying, okay, every three months you're gonna you need to take a break, right? And I I would I'd go with that, right? Every three, four, every three for three months, I'm like, okay, vacation time. We should all take vacation for three weeks, right?

SPEAKER_01 12:39

I'll start thinking about that.

SPEAKER_03 12:41

Right. Right? Let's let's let's plan, you know, let's plan accordingly, right? Well, it then the eclipses that happen twice a year are the universe's way of shaking things up, right? Preventing things from getting stagnant. And so, yes, it they're not always so negative, if you will. But for instance, you know, um, when I really started picking paying attention to this years, years ago, I remember I had looked in um there was a big uh uh leadership change, the dictator of uh Indonesia back in '98 or so, I remember. Um, and you know, baby astrologer kind of was like, huh, that's interesting. I wonder what that means, right? Um, but he had been in power for 30 years. Okay. And so when you see that going over a country where that's occurring, you can say, wow, that really shook things up and allowed for the for the more democratic forces to come in and the change that people have been looking for to occur, right? So so absolutely they can actually bring um in fact, one of the things that's kind of noted about them is that they can take someone big from high places and bring them down, but then they can also take someone from obscurity and raise them up. And so you so you tend to have both of them, and it just depends on you know whose chart, you know, use chart. In fact, we're gonna look at both of them uh two people today. We have uh Trump's chart, um, at the same time, he's a he's a Leo ascendant, and JD Vance is also a Leo ascendant, and we may be seeing a uh you know one of those dynamics, one going up, one going down. So wow it's not necessarily negative per se, right?

SPEAKER_02 14:19

It's let's dive in. Okay, well you got my you got my attention, okay.

SPEAKER_03 14:26

I was like, wait, what? What's going on? Okay, so um just tease us like that. Right, right. Okay, sorry about that. Sorry about that. Um interesting. So, you know, let's start off with Trump, and um so I'm just gonna uh uh put this up here, cascade. All right, so what's interesting with Trump's chart, this is um occurring in his first house. So he has a um Leo rising, he has a very late degree Leo, it's pretty much 29, almost 30 degrees, so it's a very late Leo um degree. And what that means in astrology, very late degrees, very early degrees are very um means that that sign has not fully um stepped into that area, and so it doesn't fully manifest its energy, right? It's almost like if you're walking to a doorway and you kind of have your toe in, you're not quite in there, so you don't fully manifest. And that's very much a weakness of the personality, right? And so, you know, I'll say this about anyone. However, you then would say, okay, well, how is he has a presence as he does, right? For good or bad. People notice him. Well, that's because his son, the ruler of that of Leo, is you know, with the North Node, and that is a turbocharger. So he's has some kind of um mitigating factors, or else he really would be, you know, much more um weak-willed than what he is. He also has that Mars in the first house that activates that Mars and why what he's known for, right? He's known for being very Martian, very disruptive, very aggressive, very crude, right? This is all that Mars energy. Okay, so those are the two planets. And if we're looking at from the Western perspective, he also has Pluto in the first house, and Pluto is a planet of death, transformation, death-like experiences, right? Um, the god of the underworld, right? And and and and the shadow side. And so Pluto and Mars, when you have that in the first house, you know, this is you get the personality that Trump is. So it very much fits him. Now, the degrees. 29 degrees, the the eclipse will be at 20 degrees, so you know, that's close enough for government work, right? That's that's gonna cause some stuff. Um the Mars is the one I'm probably more interested in because that Mars is at 26 degrees and the eclipse is at 20. And so that's gonna, you know, that's definitely within orb of having a um a significant influence as well. Now, um the other planets that are are in the in the eclipse, as I mentioned, was Jupiter and Mercury. Those are further away. Jupiter is at nine degrees, Mercury is at five degrees. Um, but nonetheless, that he's still gonna have uh those are still going to be stymied for him as well. Okay. Uh what they represent.

SPEAKER_00 17:25

Can you can you share your screen?

SPEAKER_03 17:28

Oh, okay, sure, sure, sure. I would love to that.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

And then I will make sure that this is on so they can see it.

SPEAKER_03 17:35

Gotcha, perfect. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

I would love to follow along.

SPEAKER_03 17:38

Okay. Let me pull that up. Okay. Um, okay. I hit share. Share settings. Oh. Is that you that needs to do that to get to give me permission or that's a good question. Because normally when I hit share, it should just give me Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. I just needed to reach it. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

We're still in retrograde, guys. It's okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:07

It's totally fine. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's how perfect. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

All right, perfect, perfect, perfect, excellent, excellent, excellent. Thank you. So to recap, um, Leo Ascendant, very late degree, 2957, pretty much 30. Um, 26 degrees and change, Pluto at 10 degrees. Okay. Um, and the eclipse will be at um, let's see here. I just want to stop this thing on on my screen. There it is. Um the eclipse itself, 20 degrees, Leo here, Jupiter nine degrees, Mercury at at five, all in all in Leo. All right now, here's an interesting thing. Just from without looking at Trump's chart first, let's just kind of analyze this uh eclipse thing going on here. The other thing that I noticed when I saw this, I was like, oh, okay, this is gonna be really fascinating. Uh, there are specific degrees in each sign that are called that are considered world points. And what a world point is, is um of the cardinal signs, zero and 22 degrees, world point. In the fixed signs, it's um 15 degrees. In the dual signs, right? These there's uh seven and a half degrees, right? Um now Mars is in cancer. Look at that, still within range of not still within what we would call a world degree. So it's zero degrees of cancer. That is a world point for Mars. Now, Mars does not like cancer. Mars is debilitated in cancer, and debilitation is just like you know, there are places that you feel comfortable and you feel accepted, and you you feel that you can be yourself, right? Naturally, you'd like that. Well, Mars is a fiery planet. Cancer is a water sign. Fire and water doesn't do so well for fire, right? Now, you would tend to think that that may make Mars weak, but Mars weak is Mars frustrated, and that can be much more dangerous, right? And so when I see a Mars like that, I'm like, okay, be careful here. That world points are things that you see in the world, right? To give you an idea, the Saturn Neptune that occurred at zero degrees of Aries back on February 17th here was at zero degrees of Aries. And then not long after that, what did we have? We had the war in Iran, and that was very much a world point. Neptune and Saturn rule oil in Aries, the aggressive warlike sign, and so that was the very definition of the war that was to come. Okay, so that was a signature. Similarly, with Mars at zero degrees of um cancer, we can expect an um aggressive aspect connected to this um uh to the eclipse, right? That is kind of like a subset theme, and so you kind of really do have to pay attention to that shift that's about to occur here, right? And so when I read that, I'm like, oh well, that's interesting. Um, the other thing that's really kind of important to kind of look at as well is um the nodes, north node is Rahu in Vedic astrology. We call it Rahu, North Node, South Node is Ketu or Ketu. And that is the these are about to change signs that week, like later, like within what about three within a week, these change signs, and Ketu will go into Leo, North Node will move to Aquarius. And remember what I said about Trump's first house? It was at basic 29 degrees, and the way that the eclipses, excuse me, the way that the nodes move, they move counterclockwise. So they they count down from from um zero and move up to 29 and then move into the next sign. And so this one is gonna go directly on Trump's first house. So he's going to have literally Ketu, the South Node, the planet that causes the eclipses, directly on his first house. And that speaks to him feeling eclipsed, literally, in very literal ways, even without the sun. Being there, like just K2 there by itself can do that. So you're almost having a dual eclipse effect where he's not going to have access to his usual strength and vitality and and and such, right? Um, that's not a really good portending for his health, to be quite honest with you, aside from the fact that this um the sun itself is somewhat close to that degree and close to his Mars. And so his ability to be Mars-like. Now, it doesn't, I wouldn't say it makes him any less aggressive, but it'll make his aggression ineffective. Probably the best way to put that. Okay. Uh, he'll still be lashing out. Okay. Now, having said all that, um, something else just came to mind when I'm I'm just looking at this. I'm like, yeah, this is problematic um for Trump. Oh, now this is what I was gonna say. Now, at least all of us jump on the bandwagon. We're like, oh my god, this is right. I want to remind people that that eclipse in 2017 was at like 28, 29 Leah directly on his first house ascendant. Didn't phase him. This man just actually looked at the eclipse with anything on. Remember everyone talking about that?

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_03 23:53

Yeah, so I'm not gonna jump on, I'm not gonna jump go there, but I'm just gonna say that um, you know, it is interesting that we actually had a stronger eclipse that should have short-circuited him, right?

SPEAKER_00 24:06

Um now as it was that being a thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:09

Remember that? That was yeah, now as it was, what it actually meant was how it affected he was in his first term in getting all the things that he wanted done, right? The Democrats were able to stymie him, right? So that is how he was eclipsed, if you will. There was the, you know, all of the stuff that was going on, Russia Gate and dah dah dah dah da, all this other stuff, okay. Um, but you see how that prevented him from actually being able to do anything. This one, I I will tell you, almost I don't know if I want to use the word worse, but this is more problematic, I would say, only because that K2 going at the same time in his first house, right? Uh along with that eclipse, okay, and the time period that he's running in Vedic astrology, we can look at the time period that people are in, and he's in a um, yeah, he's in a K2. Oh, excuse me. Not let me go to Trump's chart. Apologize here. He's in a Jupiter Mars period. Okay. Um Jupiter is the rules his fifth house, which is why it's politics. Jupiter also rules the eighth house of transformations, of crises, and he's just been dealing with one thing after the next, obviously. But that but that Mars subperiod, Mars rules the fourth house of the home. In this case, it would be his connection with the United States. It's land, it's you know, all of that, the policies of protecting the land, right? Um, Mars also rules the ninth house, which is foreign international relations, which obviously is not going so well for him. And we have that's where we have that Saturn Neptune situation going on in overseas. And so this is a context that this Mars is functioning under, and then you have the eclipse falling on top of that, and we're already seeing how ineffective he's been in you know dealing with Iran. Like he's not able to impose his will as he thought he would. And the main reason for that is because in the ninth house of foreign inter um foreign interactions, right? The um foreign lands, he has that debilitated Saturn. Saturn doesn't do so well in uh Mars assigns. Saturn is where one meets up with the harsh realities, even though you're trying to take action. Mars is an uh um Aries is an action-prone environment, and yet you literally have this stick in the mud, right? Of like, no, I'm not moving. This is not happening, right? And that creates a the level, that level of frustration. And that's why he was ineffective in getting his things done. Incidentally, to extend a little bit further, the ninth house also deals with laws, okay, which is why all these legal rulings have been going against him. I saw this last year when I saw that, and you know, you watch the news about everyone's worried about this, that, the other happening. I saw that Saturn was moving in. I was like, I wasn't even worried. I was like, yeah, he's not gonna lose that one, the birthright citizenship one, that one against him. So there's been very key turnarounds. Whereas before, what was the narrative in 25? Narrative was like, oh my god, he's all these things are for him. The Supreme Court is in his pocket, and that you see, but the rulings had not come out yet. He was doing everything with it by executive order, right? But contrary to what people believe, we still are a country of laws and rules, and so that went that just had to go through the process, and then once that happened with um Saturn into um into his ninth house, all of a sudden he met the harsh reality of Saturn. Saturn is your limits. Saturn says, here and no more. Saturn represents strangleholds, right? Like the closing of the Strait of Harmuz, right? And even that term, right? It's not really close, it's close to people who don't who haven't attacked Iran. That's who it's close to, right? Um, people who have attacked Iran, I should say. Um, right, so that's where Israeli ships can't go through, right? You have to follow their rules, right, about that. Um, and contrary to popular opinions, the Strait of Hormuz is not international waters, right? This would be like saying the the um like Florida where I'm at, the space between Key West and say Cuba, you know, you have about 12 miles international. Um, that's within 12 miles of the shore is your international space, right? That's where you can function out of it's yours, if you will. Same thing happens over the Strait of Hormuz. Okay, so because Iran was attacked, okay, let's be very clear about that. I like I like to be very particular about things like you know, they were attacked, right? Trump attacked them, right? Um, and they are defending themselves, and they're not militarily superior to the United States, and so they were able to find what a stranglehold literally is what Saturn represents. Okay, and Saturn, by the way, rules oil. So you can't make that up. You can't make that up. So um just just to point out that there's gonna be more of that happening, and the ineffective nature of his in um of him being able to dictate, right, in that regard, is going to be even more evident when this with this eclipse because his Mars is there, Mars rules the ninth house. Okay, so we're going to see that be a key factor in that. Now, on the health front, this is really problematic for his health, right? Because all those planets will be in his first house. The first house is the house of the body, and um this could definitely be, you know, people have been talking about that this year, but I think now, between this these next six months, this is where that should be more apparent, right? Um, and so it would not surprise me if there's a significant health challenge that maybe sidelines him. Um, right now, here's the other part. Remember we talked about that Mars in cancer? Well, interestingly enough, that Mars at the world point is going to be in his 12th house. 12th house is far away distant lands, like Iran, like China, like Russia. Okay. And so there's gonna be um action there or ineffective action there as well, okay. Um the 12th house is also the house connected to hospitalizations. It is where someone goes to be imprisoned, it literally rules prisons. I'm not saying he's going to prison, I'm saying he's gonna create those types of circumstances where he feels isolated, okay? And that makes sense. Um, when Biden was president, I had looked and you know, before, you know, we were worried about his health even before when he first began. And I remember looking at his chart. Biden has like five planets in the 12th house, by the way, in his in his natal chart. So I was always like, man, this is what's gonna happen here. And I remember I just personally myself, I was like, wait, he's is he gonna make it? Because this eclipse I saw or saw a really bad transit. I was like, wait up, that's the hospitalization. Is he, you know, what's gonna happen to him? Yeah, he went to the hospital, he lost, but temporarily, right? And then he got back out again. Right. So I would say that, you know, just be cautious when we see these things, like it could happen, but maybe to the extent that we're expecting it to happen. Now, in Biden's case, that was not a um an eclipse, okay? But with this, with in Trump's chart, when I see that happen, and you know, there's a world point connected to that, right? These are things that are in the news that cannot be hidden. By the way, 12th house also means things that are hidden that can that can come to light, and eclipses, total or solar, tends to bring hidden things to light.

SPEAKER_00 32:05

Okay, so I what about have you have you checked Mitch McConnell's uh uh charts?

SPEAKER_03 32:11

I am I have not. Let me see if I even if I might have his um here. I know, right?

SPEAKER_00 32:19

Well, I mean uh get you off track, but I mean that would be super interesting to see.

SPEAKER_03 32:24

That would be interesting, yeah. Uh no, no, he's it's not, it's isn't I I don't have his back here. I did have um Lindsey Graham's chart from before, and um that one as an aside was really interesting because um my astrology students we we we went over that and um at the risk of sounding really macabre, we did a you know, we literally did an astrological autopsy um with that chart, and I was like, oh, I I had looked at this chart maybe about back during the war, um, the beginning of the Iran War, because I was like, man, he's really like what's going on with Lindsay Graham, right? So I pulled up his chart and I found some really interesting things about him. Like he uh adopted his sister when he was in college because his mother died at when he was 21 or 22 in 1976, 1977, the year later, his father died of a heart attack, right? So so these type of you know, people like that with those histories, you know, as an astrologer, we're like, wow, there's gonna be stuff here. Um, so Lindsay Graham, really quick, he um he literally just went into he went into a Venus Jupiter period 629, 2026. Less than, and then he passed what July, was it after July 4th? Yeah, it was after July 4th. Yeah, yeah, yeah, July 11th or something like that. Um, and so literally within two weeks of him moving into this Venus-Jupiter period, right? Um, Jupiter rules his sixth house of health and healing, okay, which was you know very interesting, um as well. And then um his Venus is his first house ruler, and that's his body. And he had just come from um um uh touring a factory or visiting Ukraine. He had landed, and that evening is when he had what I think it actually makes sense, very likely a clot in his leg or somewhere in the body that then went somewhere and ruptured that basically dissected, bisected, right? Kind of split his valve open. Um, and so that's kind of what happened. He just went into that sub-period that speaks to health challenges. Okay. And then also in his chart, he had some really problematic things that you know, he had Uranus here in the ninth house, sudden unexpected Mars Uranus in his ninth house, sudden unexpected things, okay. Um, which was square the nodes that were here. So it would have been one of those things if you know, if he had approached me or something like I'd been like, you know, he should say low for the next three weeks, right? This is not a time to go travel, yeah. And you know, 70 what 71, 72, somewhere in there, right? I mean, which is you know, relatively, relatively, you know, that's that's not like 90, right? 71. So, you know, yeah, but um so like everyone else, when I woke up that day, that was like the first thing I saw that day, and I was like, oh, okay, well, the universe is kind of doing its job, right?

SPEAKER_00 35:30

Yeah, he's probably had a couple drinks because it was just his birthday, too.

SPEAKER_03 35:33

So absolutely, yep, yep, yep, exactly. Yep, there you go. Just his birthday.

SPEAKER_00 35:38

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 35:39

There you go.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

Well, if I mean, I used to be on cruise ships uh and do that, and we would always find the older people, they just couldn't handle all the salt and the drinks and all that, and we'd always have heart attacks on board. So yeah, it's the whole traveling thing. Sorry to go off board. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 35:56

No, no, no, I know I didn't mean so so that that that's what's kind of interesting there. So so that's what's going on with Trump. Um, we can expect potential very likely health challenges. And now, when may that occur? Well, usually within the within the month. So basically by sometime in September, it's potentially that could manifest. Um, and then whatever effects occur will manif you know we'll be dealing with over the next six months, right? So uh, but it it could happen within that time window, right? From August 12th, you know, thereabouts as we move into that, right? I tell people a week on either side for the more intense effects, but then really it could be the next um the next one, right? It could be sometime in September. Okay. Um, so that is definitely one thing I'm I'm you know concerned with um when you look at that when you look at when you look at that chart, right? Because remember, as the nate, as the ruler goes, the nation goes. And so when you, you know, when someone becomes president leadership um position of the country, you look at that chart to determine what's going on in the country, right? Um, the reasons that you're seeing all these things with rare earths and mining, right? Um, why he wants Greenland for all, you know, cobalt, uranium, and tungsten and all these things, right? Not just gold and silver, is because Mars rules those metals. Well, excuse me, it rules mining, right? It's one of the planets of mining. The other one is Saturn. But um, that and he has Mars in his first house. And so his policy is all about, you know, opening up these lands for access to these things, right? So you can expect that to happen um there. So this is going to this is what's really quite problematic for him at this time. And his typical communication, that's gonna be stymied, which is kind of interesting to see how that plays out, right? Um, he's not gonna be as, you know, as he typically was, it's not being received. And also his Jupiter, that his natural optimism is gonna kind of escape him, if you will. Now, as it is, we already know that a lot of people in his party have already like, yeah, I'm done with him. The key people being, of course, um Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Green, right? Um, Thomas Massey always had a problem with him, uh, if you will. But you're you're starting to see that split in the the um the manga base, if you will, because people are kind of like, wow, okay, yeah, we got hoodwinked. You know, he's not supposed to take us to war, and here we are actually in war, so on and so forth. Okay. So I think that's that growing discontent, popularity, lack thereof is going to be more and more evident, right? Um, more and more, however, they try and spin it um as they go into as you know, US goes into the midterms. Now, questions before I go to JD.

SPEAKER_02 38:56

No, no, I'm I'm ready. I'm ready for this.

SPEAKER_03 39:00

Okay, well, interesting enough, the opposite, I won't say the opposite, but JD is also getting an eclipse as well. So JD, of course, comes off very differently than uh Trump does. Why? Because he has sun in its own sign in Leo, right? And that is what uh um makes his life uh much more uh stable. I'm sorry, you said um that's that's kind of why his life, I said the word stable, but it's it's not, but he's been able to overcome a lot of the obstacles in his in his life, right? Because he has such a very he has a much stronger first house, if you will, okay. And then Venus is there as well. So instead of that Mars, that combative, right, part of um the leadership, he's the smooth talker, okay. Um, and so Sun Venus definitely comes across better, if you will. Now, you know, I still have issues with him when I see this other in other cases, but you know, this is not your brash off the cuff, right? This is thoughtful, this is intelligent, this is uh discoursive way of you know communicating, right? Very much Sun Venus, okay. Um, more on the this is also why he's the head of the diplomatic um efforts, right? He's the head because the sun is what you're seen as, and so he's definitely the more diplomatic. Okay, put him out there to kind of you know do the diplomatic part, okay? Um, because Venus represents diplomats, okay. So this is how people see him. Okay. Now the ascendant is 27 degrees, okay. Again, really similar to Trump's, who's at 29, okay? But Venus is at 23 degrees, the sun is at 10. So basically, the one that's going to get eclipsed the most, right, is going to be that Venus. Venus rules his third house, it rules his 10th house. And so the eclipse that can happen is remember, it kind of sucks you in, and all of a sudden, these things, these set of events occurred. Um, in terms of third house things, third house represents one's efforts and skills, communication. Okay. And so that we're gonna see, especially especially communication connected to diplomacy, which we're already seeing him, he was being rebuffed already with the Iran thing. So I think that there's gonna be more of that kind of happening. Okay. The other part is that what I kind of find interesting is the career thing, because typically you would say, okay, well, that doesn't sound so good, right? His career is getting eclipsed. But remember what I said about the eclipses, you kind of get into that whirlwind, and all of a sudden, right, you can go from low to high, right? And if Trump goes from high to low, well, Trump obviously Vance is next in charge. And so it's it's potential, right? This does have the potential for that. This is gonna be a setup, and I just find that interesting how the universe sets it up to where it's both the same degrees, and we're going to be able to potentially see an eclipse, total eclipse, cause the same thing where one goes down, the other gets a rise out of life.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

Okay, that's fascinating.

SPEAKER_03 42:15

So that's a distinct possibility. Now, on the other personal front, what I I have concerns with is um when I look at this from Vedic astrologer things, Venus represents the wife and the marriage, and which kind of makes sense because if you're thrust into that, you're already, you know, not home, or you know, and that makes him less available. And so that alienation from his wife, right? Just not being home, right?

SPEAKER_00 42:41

Especially yes, she just had a baby.

SPEAKER_03 42:46

Okay. Uh Pluto is in that house. So so to be honest with you, you know, there is a concern from this position for her health. Okay. Um, I I think that's one of the things that you'll probably be hearing about, right? And if we don't hear about that specifically, then at the very least, you know, um, she may be herself just be feeling, you know, the isolation of that.

SPEAKER_00 43:08

Postpartum. I'm sorry, postpartum.

SPEAKER_03 43:12

Postpartum, yes, very much so. Very much so. I think it's gonna be a particularly difficult one there um as well. And now what's interesting about um Vance's chart, right, is he has Ketu, the South Node natally, in the fifth house house of children. And what that means is anytime you see Ketu, Ketu, unless it's exalted and what you know, some other good aspects, whatnot, um, generally isolates you from your kids. There's a separation, right? Uh emotional distance of some sort, right? Um, it can create, it can create that, right? And so it wouldn't surprise me if that is the case. And I'm not making a judgment call on it, I'm just saying you see Ketu in the fifth house, you're like, huh, there's something different going on here where there's some emotional distance that's not quite, you know, regardless of what people say, right? Um, and the other reason I'm really, really see that is because the ruler of the fifth house is Jupiter. Jupiter is placed in the sixth house, debilitated and retrograde. So that creates difficulties with children. Okay. So this is a concern. This is a concern natally. And so I, you know, when we get as he gets older, you know, 10 years from now, 20 years from now, we're gonna hear about these kids and we're gonna hear of the difficulties that way. In the round, and it's right. There's going to be a a break or separation and a tension that's going to be palpable. Okay. Mark my words about that one. That one, I'll take that one to the bank any day. Um, because that I mean, Jupiter is debilitated at five degrees. This one's at four degrees of debilitation, and it's retrograde. And in the sixth house, which is a bad house. Um, in Vedic astrology, sixth house is six, eight, and twelve are the um Dushtana or grief-producing houses. Of the of those three, six is the least bad because things can improve with effort. But this one has been dug, is is in a pretty serious hole to begin with. Okay. And so so I definitely there's definitely concerns with children in this chart. Now, here's the other thing, too. You know what the other thing the fifth house rules? Politics. Okay. And so the my concern here is the concern once, even before I knew his background, when I did a very intensive deep dive just for my own understanding and astral profile. Um, is the concern with JD Vance is that he's not his own man, that he developed a friendship with Peter Thiel of Palantir Group back in Yale, I believe. He he went there and he's kind of ingratiated himself to that group, if you will. And these are the techno bros, right? Um, and Palantir has had um government contracts with the US military to be using their technology to optimize and do all the things that they with the military. Um, and so it's always been taught said that JD Vance was Peter Thiel's guy, if you will, right? And the in into the government representing that sector, right? It representing that industry. This makes sense here because for someone like this to get into politics that has a fifth house ruler that's retrograde and debilitated, right? With Ketu in the fifth house, what that tells me Ketu is also secrets hidden, right? Can't quite figure out, right? Hard to pin down, hard to understand, right? Uh Ketu is a fog, and so things are not as they seem. This is like the perfect situation for someone to be a spy, a double agent, right? So basically, he's acting on the behest of other people, and they're the ones that put have put him into power, right? And he then becomes their spokesperson, if you will. And how is he how does he do it? Well, what do what you see with him is that Venus, that polished nature, the you know, he's he speaks well, he can, you know, all these things, right? The sun, he comes across, you know, presidential, right? In terms of what we would typically expect. But then when you probe, like, well, how did you know what do you what do you actually believe, right? Remember, he flip-flopped on Trump, right?

SPEAKER_00 47:44

Right.

SPEAKER_03 47:45

Right, and in astrology, Jupiter is your philosophy, okay? So his philosophy is debilitated, retrograde, means he goes back and forth, right? And in the sixth house. So a very afflicted Jupiter like this means this is someone who will, you know, tell him what to say, and he'll say that. You cannot trust this person's philosophical stance, okay? He's gonna do what it needs to be done, like any typical politician, but even more so with that Jupiter, right? He's um it's very evident, you know. What's interesting is that you live long enough and you kind of you see people and you can like, oh okay, I know that kid is, right? Vance was that fat, ugly kid in high school that couldn't, you know, get anything going for himself, right? And when I see him, that's kind of what I see, right? I see this person with a lack of self-confidence, right? Now he did end up going to the military, but that was after he likes, and that's the reason why is because he, you know, his son is strong enough, right? But I saw, but I see him as this real level of insecurity that's within him, right? He can deny it all he wants, he can have all the polish, but I see a little fat kid that's not comfortable in his own skin, and that's the way I look at it, right? That's the way I see it. Um, so it may not be necessarily the most PC thing, but it speaks to his insecurities, okay? His background, his mom was a meth head and was grazed by his grandmother, right? Right? All these things that he's had to overcome, okay. But more insecurity is there and has allowed him to say whatever he needs to do, he's gonna do. And so I don't trust him. I don't trust, you know, I don't trust that Jupiter. Okay. It's gonna, you're gonna see the nice Venus, you're gonna see that sun in the front, right? So he comes polished, but his philosophy, he has none.

SPEAKER_02 49:38

Well, what about his fourth house with Mars and Saturn?

SPEAKER_03 49:41

Exactly. That's the mother, that's the mother, okay. That was a harshness of the environment. Um, the fourth house is the mother, the fourth house is the emotions, happiness, your your ability to be happy, if you will, um, and to be content, okay. And Mars is in its own sign, which is thankfully, which is a good strength there, but Saturn there, there's there's a very strong affliction, and so that creates a lot of frustration for him. And so on his mother's side, that mother lineage coming from the hard scrabble life that he's um that he grew up with, right? That's where um that's where he comes up with. Now, you may then ask, well, how did he rise to the prominence that he did? Well, it's because he has an exalted Rahu. Rahu or the North Node in Vedic astrology is cravings, um, insatiable desires for material, material success and um material abundance and success, right? It makes a person just hell-bent and determined to get ahead because it's in the 11th house of gains, of being able to fulfill your major desires. Okay, it's the best placement for Rahu is Mercury signs, either Virgo or Gemini. It's in Gemini in this case, and the 11th house, right, means that you personally have a rise in life. You start here, you work really hard, and he has this craving and intense desire to achieve. I say, because of his lack of self-esteem. Okay, and therefore he's done that. That's what's given him the rise in life, right? And then the other people that have supported him, right, through politics, right? So this ketsu, this south note in the fifth house means how he got the rise in life, right? In terms of the politics, behind the scenes stuff, right? Stuff that we're not seeing. And really, only astrology is going to let you know that this is what was functioning in the background, right? There was there was nothing um accidental with this, right? This was very much like, okay, we we got someone that we can ride to the top, okay. And he was pushed in front, right? Because they saw him as this, and he was willing to, you know, do what he needed to do to rise above his station, if you will, in life. Okay. Um, so that's that's why. So is he a really happy person? Right. Uh, I think deep in his heart of hearts, as I said, you know, that insecure little fat kid. That's the way I put it, right? It's just it just is very motive when you when you see him that way, and that's what I see. By the way, I I kind of say the same thing with um who's that meta dude, Zuckerberg? You know, yeah, yeah. He he would have he would have not liked high school where I grew up. He would have not liked high school. Right? Um and so these things still fit, right? Um as much as it may not have been S would be PC, you you kind of get the sense of what I'm talking about, right? It's just like, how did that get well, you know, money covers over. I'll get back on this, but the thing that I think is most telling about Zuckerberg is always how things begin tells you how things will be, period. He created Facebook and hacked into the Harvard um directory, right? To find out all the pretty girls and had a rating system amongst just his friends. That was kind of the original Facebook just amongst his peers. That's how Facebook started. Same thing, same thing, right? He couldn't get a date. He could right like I'm just you're right, I don't know that part, but couldn't get a date. Um right, and so he does this really creepy thing, and so that creepiness that we feel about Facebook, how they're spying on us, that's how we started. That was the the seed nucleus of right, so as things begin, they're just more of the same.

SPEAKER_00 53:53

We go back to MySpace. Will that ever come back?

SPEAKER_03 53:56

I know let's go back to those things, right? Let's go back.

SPEAKER_00 54:01

Um, I want music to my life. My profile. I want to design my profile.

SPEAKER_03 54:07

Remember that? I mean, that's those were some that was some fun stuff.

SPEAKER_00 54:11

You can blog, you can do all that stuff, you know.

SPEAKER_03 54:14

Uh let's see. Okay. Um Mercury. Mercury rules his oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So the other reason, real quick, why um he made it now is because JD Vance started is in his Saturn period. Saturn, as you said, is really is angular, so that gives strength. It rules a sixth and a seventh. Um, um, health, the wife, all these things going on. But he's now in Saturn Mercury. Mercury is the probably the best planet in the in the chart, right? Behind the sun. Probably Mercury's better. Mercury is exalted in the second house of finances, um, writing, all these things. He has a he has another book out as to how he became Roman Catholic, I think. Um, I refer people back to what I said about religion and philosophy, debilitated. I'm not buying it. Um, but that Mercury also rules that exalted Rahu, which is why he has that rise in life, right? Which is he got um nominated um 2024, right? Um, yeah, August of 24. No, yeah, August 24. And then this is him being vice president. Mercury rules the 11th house, rise in life. So I think this eclipse might create more of that dynamic for him as well, right? It could rise him to the highest land, very likely. I started looking at his chart maybe about three months ago because I was like, oh, I think this might be happening here. I need to pay more attention to him. So I spent quite a bit of time in his chart and such. Um, so with him, issues with his wife, we're gonna probably hear, as you said, postpartum some challenges there. Um, but it this may, you know, give him he may be stepping into office. We'll see. So that's the eclipse that relates to to JD Vance, those two. So we kind of get to see how that plays out.

SPEAKER_00 56:21

And so, and then you said these this energy, these this eclipse energy lasts for six months, right? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 56:29

Okay, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:30

So and then the next eclipse until the next eclipse.

SPEAKER_03 56:35

Okay, up until next, yeah. So you'll be dealing with what this eclipse brought, and then just you know, dealing with the after effects and whatnot. So I'm pegging September. I think you know, let's look for September to see kind of what you know, kind of what that actually brings, right? In terms of full manifestation, right? It could happen before then, but you know, I'm saying let's let's see for September um happening. And to be honest with you, I would even go into October because then we go into that Venus retrograde, which is gonna be pretty substantial as well. So Venus retrograde, um, Venus will be retrograde from Libra into Scorpio, 849, 8 degrees, and they move back here. So it's gonna be in this case, and again, this is gonna be more connected with his wife. This is also gonna be connected to his diplomatic efforts, okay? So, hypothetical, if he becomes um president, his focus will not be on Mars combativeness, it's gonna be on peace. It's gonna be let's make a deal, right? Let us get a diplomatic resolution to this, right? So, right off the bat, that you can see that's gonna happen, right? Now, there's gonna be the tension with his party, and you know, because of that, but we deal with astrology and we see what he's gonna be known for is Venus, Venusian themes, okay, as a way of his public persona, 10th house, okay, which is what that Venus rules. So he's definitely the person that makes peace. Okay. If that's why that falls through.

SPEAKER_02 58:10

Do the previous eclipse cycles ever affect the ones that are coming up now? Because I know, like, you know, Mercury retrograde, you can come to the same patterns.

SPEAKER_03 58:21

Yes. So what people typically do is so we know that the degree of an eclipse, like for instance, the one the easiest to remember is Saturn Neptune was at zero degrees Aries. After they've actually done their you know, dance at zero degrees Aries, any other planet that comes and hits that zero degrees of Aries, with you know, after that main one, will influence what that meant. Okay, so 20 degrees of Leo, you would want to pay attention to, right? Anytime a planet hits 20 degrees of Leo. Interesting you bring that up. Mars will be retrograde, okay, starting January to April of next year. Before it does that, remember at the eclipse, it's gonna be in Cancer. It's gonna move into, it's gonna go through Cancer, move into Leo, go all the way through, go into Virgo, and then retrograde back. Okay. The first time it hits 20 degrees of Leo, that is the eclipse point. Okay, that's when we can see Mars may spark something connected to what that eclipse meant. Right? And so these are like little reverberations that just reignite the meaning of that eclipse, okay. Now, that could be problematic. Let's just, you know, just just see when when that um when that'll occur, just since you asked about that. That's actually a really good thing to do. Um, so we're just gonna move this chart to this is today.

SPEAKER_00 59:59

I'm just gonna move 30 days, 30 days, and this is the world chart that you're pulling up.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:05

This is a world chart, this is where the planets are in in the sky and the tropical system. And let's see. 20 degrees, Mars hits 20 degrees. Wow, interesting. Um November 3rd, 2026. So November 3rd is what we want to pay attention to because that's when Mars reaches that eclipse degree. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:32

And you know that's election day?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:35

Yeah. Oh, that's election day.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:37

I thought it was a fifth. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:39

Oh, actually it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:41

Yeah, I was like, I believe it's the third.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, well. Look at that right now. Yeah, because I because remember, we had you can have me on and we can do an election day thing, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:53

Let's see where Alex is he gonna win.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:56

All right, we can do we can do that one.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:58

Uh like, I want to look at my my chart for election day.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:04

Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. Midterm's 11:30. Yeah, yeah. It's the third. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Interesting, interesting, interesting. Um so now before that, Jupiter will actually hit that 20 degrees, right? So let's just um let's just pretend that we didn't, right? Okay, so the month before, October 4th, Jupiter will hit that 20 degrees of that eclipse degree. So that's gonna be a Jupiterian theme connected to that event, right? Uh, so that could be oh my goodness. See, now now it gets really funny and interesting to see. Uh, that can bring some type of ruling, some type of law, um connected some judgment could connected with that. Um, that seems like that would be more positive, to be honest with you. Jupiter, Mars, and Sun are friends, and so um this will be helpful there. Um, so that's potential, but there'll be something along that day. Now, what's interesting about that day is that uh October 3rd is when Venus went retrograde. Okay, so this is that retrograde period for um as well. So there's just a lot going on in October that um will be tying in a lot of a lot of these themes of revisiting previous things happening. Okay. Um, but yes, to your point, that's what we look at, right? We just look at later on certain um certain degrees, I would say, are active. And I would say that's kind of active for that six months, right? You kind of look for it until the next retrograde period comes, right? Some people actually, even years later, they'll be able to, there's I've read and listened to some techniques where people go back, like, oh, that was the eclipse degree back in 1978, and it again it brings back certain themes as well, right? It can get a lot more complicated and complex, but we just kind of focus on this shorter time period. But um election day. So there'll be something connected to election day because connected to what occurred in the eclipse, right? Now, that means there's a connection there, and I'll I'll leave it to you to kind of think what that might be, right? Whatever happens then is gonna resonate with um on the election day, um, specifically with that Mars. Okay, there could be some you know, J6 type energy going on, right? That Mars kind of energy. Right. I'm just I'm I'm just putting words together to see kind of what that would what that might kind of look like.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:39

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it kind of sounds sounds accurate, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:44

I mean, you know, potentially, right? So all these themes. So um that's a lot. I mean, so but this eclipse, as I said, is really pretty significant because of the fact that um it's the leadership, you always look to to to see where that's um the leadership of the country. So that speaks to some level of loss of power, loss of influence at the very least, right? That's you know, we don't necessarily need to go to the point where you know take some out. It could literally just be that leader becomes ineffective. Okay. Now, the easiest way, the most simplest way to think about that is you know, we know in the midterms, right? Very likely it doesn't look good for them. Okay, and this could this could be why, right? His un um um popularity is is on a on the decline, it then allows the the Democrats to kind of take over, which you know, we talked about before, privately, right? But it does make sense. So at the very least, he becomes ineffective. He be he's not able to do what he was able to do before. Um, you know, I'm not gonna rule him out altogether, but I'm gonna for but for sure, he's not gonna be able to do what he is able to do, and he's definitely not in a position to really dictate things. Um, he's not gonna, he's gonna be one that hides behind strength because of it, but even that strength is ineffective. Okay. Um he has he has met his match um to where he literally can't get Iran to do what he like even today, they said, Oh, he's just gonna prepare to strike. I just read those, and you say, I'm like, yeah, he's not that's not gonna be effective, right? The astrology rules the day here, right? And he's just not gonna be able to do it. Okay. Any other questions? Or yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:31

Do you have any fun pop culture uh predictions in the next through this? Have you been following anything fun?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:40

Uh, you know, I think I do. I'm just trying to think off the top of my head. If you mention something, I'll um probably go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:53

No, I was just trying to think of something that that's been, you know, that's light fun or something like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:59

Yeah. You know, because I just look at a whole lot. I mean, obviously, I look a lot of politics.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:04

I'm a big murder mystery fan, so I've seen some of that stuff happening.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:07

But you didn't know any other stuff. We did talk about earlier, um, privately just talking about the World Cup, how and you showed me on because you're diving into more astro cartography. Yeah. So you were showing me in the line, I think it was Pluto, I believe, and it was going down that line of where uh Norway, Sweden, England, like Africa, like like and you're like, nope, none of those are gonna win. So going into it and watching it, I was like, yep, they're not gonna win. They're not gonna go.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:44

Did Jim Spain have a line that actually showed that they would win?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:47

Yeah. So, well, you know, here was the interesting thing. So I had a couple predictions when I uh talked with Jessica. I saw I saw that, okay, France. So even though I was kind of hoping for France, I was like, well, let me see if this works, right? But I remembered it, I was like, wow, and that's exactly what happened. France and Norway, da da da, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:06

And then right down the line. And then I saw that Spain and England were on the same line, and they had it was very clear. There was nothing influencing them negatively, right? So I was like, okay, they're free and clear. And then I went and looked at Argentina, and they had a Pluto line that ran through there. And I was like, oh, and they had a very Pluto game. Didn't they? Yeah. So that's what led me think like. So when I saw England lose, I was like, okay, Spain is gonna win because Argentina doesn't the way that I'm learning that one because it's something new to me, is like that Pluto is they just snatch they snatch victory from the draws, um, victory from the draws of defeat several times in their last couple matches because they won last minute, they had they were down, right? That's a very plutonic theme to kind of just come up and win, but they were going up against a team that had nothing negative, right? And so they weren't able to really prevail. And here's the other thing I just saw, and I actually did this privately with the Knicks. I'm from New York originally, so you know, uh grew up being a Knicks fan. This and you know, I feel like I'm telling someone secrets, so but I will share this, but people have to do this more. I've only done it two or three times, then I'm seeing this. The other way that I kind of knew that they were gonna win was I was like, oh, wait up. I saw this with Knicks that New York was going to have a line, guess what? Of Venus celebration come in after they won. And I was like, that makes sense. That's the parade. Wow, same thing with Spain, they have Venus coming up close to their line, and I was like, Oh, I think I have a system. We need to use that system. I'm gonna trust me, I don't know what the right. Um listen, we'll talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:02

That's why I tested you earlier. I was like, hey, your predictions are right, let's do this.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:07

Let's let's talk privately. But so anyone who wants to try, you know, you can play around with it. But that that is something interesting because because you know what the thing with astrology is um the more I do it, the more I'm like, oh, I have to think about just how it is in the real world, right? Like, we want to think that these things like make things happen, right? It's I I'm thinking less and less of that. I'm just thinking they reflect what's happening, and so what's more reflective than like, oh, you're gonna have a celebration after a thing. So, what does that mean? That means you won, right? There was something good that happened, right? So, so it's just changing my way of looking at the world and looking at astrology, to be honest with you. I'm like, that actually makes sense. So I'm coming at it from just instead of just a very linear way, looking at it like, okay, how would that kind of play out? And and and what do I need would I need to see for that to occur? So that's that's really how I made that prediction. And I saw it, I was like, oh wow, that's really interesting. So I think now you have to understand you I would never be able to see that in the very beginning, like that, because that's a you know, because there's so much going on. But I think as you narrow it down and you have like four teams, two teams, right? Then you can be like, okay, let me look at the lines and you know, see who's gonna, you know. Now, the thing I thought about to do was I'm gonna go back and it just occurred to me, oh, you know, Tom Brady and all the times that they won up in um Boston, uh, the Patriots. I was like, I'm gonna go and see if it was there a Venus line each time or or thereabouts, right? Something similar to that that would indicate, right? That would make sense, not just right.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:41

So, yeah, you didn't cheat, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:43

What's that?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:44

Oh, well, mom's a big Brady fan. I'm just it's funny, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:51

Right, you can't bring that up. The plate gate, right? Uh, but yeah, so this I'm trying to say, yeah, so so so very much sad to see the World Cup go. That was a lot of fun to to see all the different um nations that were able to, you know, make some headway. Um, France collapsed as it did was very much Saturn cutting through and just like they were very flat. I mean, it was just the astrology was was was was was was was amazing to see that. Um, oh, here's something I do have about the um pop culture. So I was racking my brain and I about the whole Taylor, um Taylor Swift wedding, right? Taylor Travis, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, because from what I read about her, she's very much into astrology, right? You know, I'm not saying, you know, but she's I'm like, how is she getting married on a retrograde, Mercury retrograde, with Mars Uranus? Like, this makes no sense. And then I heard someone, then I actually had this idea, then I heard some another famous astrologer say it out loud, and I was like, okay, I I should have, yeah. That Mars Uranus happened in Gemini, a dual sign. Um, she didn't get that was a marriage, that was she got married twice. The real marriage, yeah, picked at an appropriate time, and then that marriage. So if because the time that she picked, if that's the case, we'll see that pretty quickly because that that that'll yeah, yeah. I mean that that'll that'll pretty spectacular.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:31

So you're saying she got married probably like a month before, exactly. She got and then celebrated, had a fake wedding, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:37

Exactly. Yeah, had a fake.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:42

I mean, I did it.

unknown 1:12:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:45

There you go, right? So there so I so I think that's how she escaped the um quote unquote the curse of that time period, right? Uh so you know, we'll we'll see. Now, if it ends up being ends up being like a um what's it Brad Pitt Angela Jolie situation, which is very toxic, right? Then we'll know. We'll be like, okay, well, apparently she did choose that time. Yeah. But that's when we should look at some other time for those two, because apparently that's gotten that got toxic really quick. That turned literally into a Mr. and Mrs.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:17

Smith Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:19

Literally, like they're living that out. Right after that came out, too, wasn't it? Right. That's actually how they met, from my my understanding, right? Isn't that the case? I think they met on that. Yeah, oh that was what kind of got them together.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:32

Hey, cheating on his split.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:34

Yes. Oh, Anniston. What happened? I forgot about that. That's right. Yeah, yeah. That was all the that was all the rage back then, right? Um, so yeah, yeah. So so we'll see. I tend to think that she probably did have a second wedding, and so I'm hoping that's the case because I really wouldn't want that as a wedding signature uh for them, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:58

Um well, that's cool. We'll see. We'll see how it goes.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:02

We'll see how it goes.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:03

Yeah, check out the next six months.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:06

Bingo, bingo, bingo. But yeah, so we have we have some big enough stuff to pay attention to. I think these next six months are going to be pretty um significant in the United States history. Um, and so you know, another time we can come on, I would love to kind of start talking about kind of the events coming because I've I'm starting to get more details astrologically of these next uh six, seven years for the United States, to be honest with you. Um, even more stuff. I'm like, oh wow, and I'll share privately when we get off. But it's it's fascinating. And we are 2026 is the last normal year, y'all. 2026, and not necessarily in a bad way, but just like wow, we are living history. We are living history.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:47

So I just want the bandage just come rip right off. Yeah, let's get to it. Yeah, it's something get through it and be done.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:55

Yeah, we are we are on the way to becoming who what we were meant to be. So we are gonna be time travel.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:01

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:02

Can we just wormhole your way through?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:04

I know, you know. Can we can we go to like 2032, 2033?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:10

Yeah, I love it. I love it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:12

Well, the cool thing is, well, the cool thing is is that our each individual chart is you know, it just depends on what it's affect being affected by, right? So really all there might be chaos going around us in the world, but our individual chart may say something else.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:33

So yeah, and I'm I'm less and less um like, oh my god, it's more like wow, we're living history. We get to, you know, think about the civil rights movement, right? Like what people watching on TV as people going through that, right? But yet in their own personal lives, they may have had elements of that, right? Um, or some to less greater or lesser degree, right? But you knew you were living in a momentous time, right? I think that if we if we kind of take it in that perspective, it's it's almost like a gift of being able to honor to be at a time where there was so much positive change that was gonna come out of it, right? And and I look at it at the same way. This is our civil rights movement, this is our you know, moment like that, if you will, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:18

Yeah, it's ready to march.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:21

A lot of stuff's gonna be happening.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:22

Come on, it's time. No, but I'm I'm glad that we have someone like you, Steve, in our back pocket and as a friend to be like, hey, I mean, I I'm learning from you how to read charts. Um, and I love watching and and and I understand it when you explain it to me. So I can understand more and more as I'm as you know as the years go on, but like just when you explain it, it's just like it's just so much easier.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:54

So I appreciate it. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:00

Okay, yeah, thanks for being with us. And um, we'll have you on again here soon.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:07

So we'll set up a day and we're gonna, yeah, we're just you're gonna be, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:13

I appreciate that. Well, I'll give a shortest plug. Uh deep dive with Dr. Steve. Yes. Um, I now have astro mapping. Thank you very much, Jess.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:25

Uh so deep dive with Dr. Steve, that's how people can find me.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:28

Yeah, and he's amazing. Um, and uh I mean, seriously, I'm seeing things that I would have never uh even thought about, and he's just you know showed me on the map where you know where to find business or where to live and where not to go. So go check him out. Deepdive with DrSteve.com and yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:48

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:49

We will see you next time.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:53

Thank you guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:54

Thanks.